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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 5648819" data-attributes="member: 463">Hm, sounds as if high level D&amp;D is not the game for you.&nbsp; The idea in D&amp;D is that if the great hero is trying not to be hit by the mook guardsmen, he won't be hit/seriously injured by them.&nbsp; If you're using 3e, I'd suggest E6 or similar might be a good approach (and make the guards 3rd-4th level vs the 6th level PCs).It is much less of a problem in 4e, in 4e if you want a world where the lone high-level Fighter cannot wade through 100 Orcs you can easily stat Orcs accordingly: Orc Raider 3rd level, Orc Veteran 8th level, Orc Elite 13th level, Orc Battle Champion 18th level; that works fine in 4e.&nbsp; It's also possible to run 4e as an Heroic Tier (1st-10th level only) game, but even playing through Paragon (11th-20th) you can plausibly stat the Orcs as high level Minions, this lets them do lots of damage to high-level PCs but they die easily.&nbsp; Or stat them as a very high level Swarm that will kill the high level Fighter.Personally I have no problem with a legendary hero being able to defeat 100 Orcs.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 5648819, member: 463"] Hm, sounds as if high level D&D is not the game for you. The idea in D&D is that if the great hero is trying not to be hit by the mook guardsmen, he won't be hit/seriously injured by them. If you're using 3e, I'd suggest E6 or similar might be a good approach (and make the guards 3rd-4th level vs the 6th level PCs). It is much less of a problem in 4e, in 4e if you want a world where the lone high-level Fighter cannot wade through 100 Orcs you can easily stat Orcs accordingly: Orc Raider 3rd level, Orc Veteran 8th level, Orc Elite 13th level, Orc Battle Champion 18th level; that works fine in 4e. It's also possible to run 4e as an Heroic Tier (1st-10th level only) game, but even playing through Paragon (11th-20th) you can plausibly stat the Orcs as high level Minions, this lets them do lots of damage to high-level PCs but they die easily. Or stat them as a very high level Swarm that will kill the high level Fighter. Personally I have no problem with a legendary hero being able to defeat 100 Orcs. [/QUOTE]

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