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<blockquote data-quote="Virel" data-source="post: 5649110" data-attributes="member: 24633"><p>Epicbob,</p><p></p><p>Many times being a 1st AD&D DM, I've had a group of inexperienced players. That's really one of the best situations for an experienced DM. Everything is new and exciting for them. </p><p></p><p>The DM needs to have an excellent grasp on how what he wants to challege the players. I think your DM is clueless in this area for example the "must have paper" deal where the inn keeper turns in the PC's and they get excuted. What the DM probably intened and obviously failed to communiate is do some recon and learn before just walking in and getting blind sided. With the group captured, there should with a fair DM have been several chances to escape or work out a reasonable outcome. The punishment strikes me as excessively harsh. A good whipping, or three days in stocks etc, then running the PC's out of town have been plenty harsh. A nice fine would have been more reasonable, then having to purchase papers etc. </p><p></p><p>There isn't anything wrong with tossing frost giants at 1st level pc's PROVIDED a clear and reasonable method of escape is presented to the players along with a hint or two this is well over your head. Sometimes it's very important to teach early on that retreat can be an option. Learning that can help avoid TPK's later pushing a hopeless situation.</p><p></p><p>Mixing in seasoned players is usually a terrible idea, unless those players understand they need to let the new players make the critical decisions and only offer advice when the decisions are poorly considered. The seasoned player should be taking a back seat for at least several sessions and be getting less of the DM's time until the group is up to speed.</p><p></p><p>Talk with the other inexperienced players and have a nice friendly toned disucssion, then talk with the DM and the experienced players. All of this may be communication and expectation issue.</p><p></p><p>If all else fails find a another DM, sometimes the most fun is had with a new DM who is learning the game along wih the players.</p><p></p><p>Best of luck.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Virel, post: 5649110, member: 24633"] Epicbob, Many times being a 1st AD&D DM, I've had a group of inexperienced players. That's really one of the best situations for an experienced DM. Everything is new and exciting for them. The DM needs to have an excellent grasp on how what he wants to challege the players. I think your DM is clueless in this area for example the "must have paper" deal where the inn keeper turns in the PC's and they get excuted. What the DM probably intened and obviously failed to communiate is do some recon and learn before just walking in and getting blind sided. With the group captured, there should with a fair DM have been several chances to escape or work out a reasonable outcome. The punishment strikes me as excessively harsh. A good whipping, or three days in stocks etc, then running the PC's out of town have been plenty harsh. A nice fine would have been more reasonable, then having to purchase papers etc. There isn't anything wrong with tossing frost giants at 1st level pc's PROVIDED a clear and reasonable method of escape is presented to the players along with a hint or two this is well over your head. Sometimes it's very important to teach early on that retreat can be an option. Learning that can help avoid TPK's later pushing a hopeless situation. Mixing in seasoned players is usually a terrible idea, unless those players understand they need to let the new players make the critical decisions and only offer advice when the decisions are poorly considered. The seasoned player should be taking a back seat for at least several sessions and be getting less of the DM's time until the group is up to speed. Talk with the other inexperienced players and have a nice friendly toned disucssion, then talk with the DM and the experienced players. All of this may be communication and expectation issue. If all else fails find a another DM, sometimes the most fun is had with a new DM who is learning the game along wih the players. Best of luck. [/QUOTE]
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