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<blockquote data-quote="aco175" data-source="post: 4874936" data-attributes="member: 27385">We have been playing for a while now but seem still a bit confused on marks from the fighter.&nbsp; The rules seem to say that whenever the marked creature makes an attack or moves they get a free atack on them by the fighter.&nbsp; My main question is whether this rule is the general one or the specific.&nbsp; One of the main points about rules is that specific ones trump the general ones and this seems like it could go both ways.&nbsp;&nbsp; I can see where it is a character ability, so that makes it specific.&nbsp; I can also see where there could/would/should be ways to get around it for better action.&nbsp; I'm not looking to take away from the rule, but the fighter is negating many abilities of monsters and npc's.&nbsp;&nbsp; One example from the other night.&nbsp; There was a dark creaper who attacked the thief, the fighter charged over and marked the creaper.&nbsp; The creaper tried to shift and gain concealment as a minor action, and got whacked from the fighter.&nbsp; Another example is the troll who was marked keeps getting whacked each time it takes an opportunity attack because of its reach, not that the reach allowed the atk, but just allowed the troll to have more.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="aco175, post: 4874936, member: 27385"] We have been playing for a while now but seem still a bit confused on marks from the fighter. The rules seem to say that whenever the marked creature makes an attack or moves they get a free atack on them by the fighter. My main question is whether this rule is the general one or the specific. One of the main points about rules is that specific ones trump the general ones and this seems like it could go both ways. I can see where it is a character ability, so that makes it specific. I can also see where there could/would/should be ways to get around it for better action. I'm not looking to take away from the rule, but the fighter is negating many abilities of monsters and npc's. One example from the other night. There was a dark creaper who attacked the thief, the fighter charged over and marked the creaper. The creaper tried to shift and gain concealment as a minor action, and got whacked from the fighter. Another example is the troll who was marked keeps getting whacked each time it takes an opportunity attack because of its reach, not that the reach allowed the atk, but just allowed the troll to have more. [/QUOTE]

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