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<blockquote data-quote="UltimaGabe" data-source="post: 3664755" data-attributes="member: 16019"><p>Here's a small example I just thought of. In a campaign I DMed early in my DMing career, one of my players was playing a Lawful Evil rogue who was part of a secret organization or assassins and blackguards. He really wanted a Ring of Invisibility, but it was far out of his price range. He eventually asked, being quite familiar with the item creation rules, if he could buy a Ring of Invisibility that only he could use (basically, a ring that someone of his alignment and class could use)- after thinking about it, I allowed it, and his character bought it much earlier than it could otherwise be available to him.</p><p></p><p>You could look at this as simply a character wanting to exploit the optional rules in the DMG in order to get an item he couldn't afford, and disallow it.</p><p></p><p>But what if, instead, he was purchasing (through one of his secret contacts) the Grasp of Shadow, an ancient ring created by the first Rogue-wizards in History, intent on using stealth to infiltrate the most secret chambers of the rivalling nation- acting as a Ring of Invisibility only when worn by a person of like mind and ability as the Rogues that created it, and passed down through generations, and sold to new recruits as a way of testing their mettle? It's got just as much flavor as the Dwarven Thrower. If this was printed in a Dragon Magazine or the Magic Item Compendium, with the class-alignment restriction woven into the price, would you allow a player to buy it?</p><p></p><p>(Incidentally, there WERE a couple instances in that campaign where it would have been FAR more useful if the other members of the group could use it. But, since he bought it with the restrictions, it screwed them over more than once.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UltimaGabe, post: 3664755, member: 16019"] Here's a small example I just thought of. In a campaign I DMed early in my DMing career, one of my players was playing a Lawful Evil rogue who was part of a secret organization or assassins and blackguards. He really wanted a Ring of Invisibility, but it was far out of his price range. He eventually asked, being quite familiar with the item creation rules, if he could buy a Ring of Invisibility that only he could use (basically, a ring that someone of his alignment and class could use)- after thinking about it, I allowed it, and his character bought it much earlier than it could otherwise be available to him. You could look at this as simply a character wanting to exploit the optional rules in the DMG in order to get an item he couldn't afford, and disallow it. But what if, instead, he was purchasing (through one of his secret contacts) the Grasp of Shadow, an ancient ring created by the first Rogue-wizards in History, intent on using stealth to infiltrate the most secret chambers of the rivalling nation- acting as a Ring of Invisibility only when worn by a person of like mind and ability as the Rogues that created it, and passed down through generations, and sold to new recruits as a way of testing their mettle? It's got just as much flavor as the Dwarven Thrower. If this was printed in a Dragon Magazine or the Magic Item Compendium, with the class-alignment restriction woven into the price, would you allow a player to buy it? (Incidentally, there WERE a couple instances in that campaign where it would have been FAR more useful if the other members of the group could use it. But, since he bought it with the restrictions, it screwed them over more than once.) [/QUOTE]
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