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Is this monk still Lawful?
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<blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 2463724" data-attributes="member: 5777"><p>You mean like every weapon, or even every roll, in the game?</p><p></p><p>A lawful character should only be allowed to take 10, and when he cannot take 10 then he should take no action at all.</p><p></p><p>After all, combat is a chaotic place, better not get into combat.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is definately going to push him towards evil eventually, he could avoid it. But I have seen nothing here to imply 'chaotic' acts.</p><p></p><p>Even if he was to walk down the street infecting every child he saw that still is not a chaotic act. <strong>Heavily</strong> evil, but chaotic?</p><p></p><p></p><p>We have a problem with this because of our various societies. Since societies like to continue they generally push the view that anything which goes against the laws is Evil to some degree. So, 'Unlawful' many times gets the view of 'Evil' by society. There are of course differing degrees of this, but it is there.</p><p></p><p>D&D works differently, the axis are seperate for a reason. As such because of our backgrounds it becomes 'very' difficult to tell the difference sometimes, and so everyone places their own view points on it. Which means that two people could have completely different views on the matter.</p><p></p><p>Much like playing the game actually. I know some people who like to have all of the rules spelled out clearly and directly. Any adjucation that is needed should be adjucated in exactly the same way unless it is specifically changed later. Whereas I also know others who use the rules as a general guideline. Stepping outside of them and/or doing something completely against them is no problem, it is expected. Adjucations are by the seat of the pants and fit more closely to what they want to have happened than any sort of continuity from the same decission before.</p><p></p><p>I would describe the first as lawful and the second as chaotic. But again I have known both sides to call the other effectively 'evil', mainly because they werent following the same type of path that they were.</p><p></p><p>Always interesting to watch <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scion, post: 2463724, member: 5777"] You mean like every weapon, or even every roll, in the game? A lawful character should only be allowed to take 10, and when he cannot take 10 then he should take no action at all. After all, combat is a chaotic place, better not get into combat. This is definately going to push him towards evil eventually, he could avoid it. But I have seen nothing here to imply 'chaotic' acts. Even if he was to walk down the street infecting every child he saw that still is not a chaotic act. [b]Heavily[/b] evil, but chaotic? We have a problem with this because of our various societies. Since societies like to continue they generally push the view that anything which goes against the laws is Evil to some degree. So, 'Unlawful' many times gets the view of 'Evil' by society. There are of course differing degrees of this, but it is there. D&D works differently, the axis are seperate for a reason. As such because of our backgrounds it becomes 'very' difficult to tell the difference sometimes, and so everyone places their own view points on it. Which means that two people could have completely different views on the matter. Much like playing the game actually. I know some people who like to have all of the rules spelled out clearly and directly. Any adjucation that is needed should be adjucated in exactly the same way unless it is specifically changed later. Whereas I also know others who use the rules as a general guideline. Stepping outside of them and/or doing something completely against them is no problem, it is expected. Adjucations are by the seat of the pants and fit more closely to what they want to have happened than any sort of continuity from the same decission before. I would describe the first as lawful and the second as chaotic. But again I have known both sides to call the other effectively 'evil', mainly because they werent following the same type of path that they were. Always interesting to watch ;) [/QUOTE]
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