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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 4167014" data-attributes="member: 463">Fewer women are motivated to become leaders, and historically leaders had to be male, but there are plenty of highly charismatic female leaders in British history - Thatcher, Elizabeth I and Boadicea, to name three.&nbsp; Women do have higher, quiter voices than men and can fade into the background in a noisy group.&nbsp; If Charisma is primarily about ability to forcefully impose your will on a group by talking loudly &amp; commandingly, then I can see a case against a female CHA bonus; in which case female superiority in social interaction would give a WIS bonus.Incidentally I think there are cultural reasons why in the USA women are often not taken seriously as leaders, and this differs from the UK and other countries (I think the US has stronger cultural gender differentiation than most Western countries).&nbsp; Not long ago in the USA African-Americans were often not regarded as capable of leadership either, but I think this has changed.&nbsp; It could change for women too, although I think the reasons are deep-seated and personally I don't think American feminism is helping women be taken seriously as leaders.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 4167014, member: 463"] Fewer women are motivated to become leaders, and historically leaders had to be male, but there are plenty of highly charismatic female leaders in British history - Thatcher, Elizabeth I and Boadicea, to name three. Women do have higher, quiter voices than men and can fade into the background in a noisy group. If Charisma is primarily about ability to forcefully impose your will on a group by talking loudly & commandingly, then I can see a case against a female CHA bonus; in which case female superiority in social interaction would give a WIS bonus. Incidentally I think there are cultural reasons why in the USA women are often not taken seriously as leaders, and this differs from the UK and other countries (I think the US has stronger cultural gender differentiation than most Western countries). Not long ago in the USA African-Americans were often not regarded as capable of leadership either, but I think this has changed. It could change for women too, although I think the reasons are deep-seated and personally I don't think American feminism is helping women be taken seriously as leaders. [/QUOTE]

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