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<blockquote data-quote="Blackwind" data-source="post: 2919574" data-attributes="member: 1205"><p>Wow, there are some great ideas here and I'm afraid it would take me at least an hour to address everyone's comments directly.</p><p></p><p>Hussar: I agree completely. I also tend to like my Paladins LG. OTOH, I haven't played one for ten years, probably; and yet, even then (at age 11, and armed with my Complete Paladin's Handbook) I wrote out my own Code of Chivalry. You can bet that Lane's player and I are doing that ASAP.</p><p></p><p>As for the variants and PrCs, none of them seem to fit Lane's concept. </p><p></p><p>WayneLigon: thanks for that Lawful and Chaotic article. It does make sense, although I sometimes wonder why they didn't call it Order instead of Law... it almost sounds like Lawful characters are Confucian and Chaotic characters are Taoist. Well, okay, that's probably not the best analogy. I've never liked D&D's pseudo-Gnostic Gygaxian cosmology anyway. Even without the Absolut Morality, it's ****ing goofy.</p><p></p><p>Elf Witch: it's going to be fun either way. If she betrays the Citadel, they'll no doubt send the King's Shadows to hunt her down. If she betrays the party, they'll probably kill her and take her stuff. For a brand new player, she sure has chosen a difficult role.</p><p></p><p>And by the way, this *is* a very RP-heavy game, with much more focus on intrigue than dungeon-trashing and players who care more about character development than powergaming.</p><p></p><p>Umbran: dead on. What I'm wondering is whether her powers derive from adherence to a *personal* Code or from her status as an agent of the King's Swords (and sworn defender of the Brelish crown).</p><p></p><p>gizmo33: very funny.</p><p></p><p>And finally, I want to add one last little thing, regarding the nature of alignment in Eberron. I quote (ECS, p. 35): "A cleric who violates the tenets of her church or deity might risk punishment at the hands of the church... but risks no loss of spells or class features and need not atone. This rule supersedes the information under Ex-Clerics on page 33 of the Player's Handbook."</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile, on p. 39: "Paladins are called to a strict and exalted life, and are mystically held to a higher standard than even clerics. A cleric of the Church of the Silver Flame can fall into heresy or even adopt an evil alignment and still retain all his abilities, but a paladin must rise above the corruption that plagues almost every church and cling to the highest ideals of her faith."</p><p></p><p>Why the double standard?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blackwind, post: 2919574, member: 1205"] Wow, there are some great ideas here and I'm afraid it would take me at least an hour to address everyone's comments directly. Hussar: I agree completely. I also tend to like my Paladins LG. OTOH, I haven't played one for ten years, probably; and yet, even then (at age 11, and armed with my Complete Paladin's Handbook) I wrote out my own Code of Chivalry. You can bet that Lane's player and I are doing that ASAP. As for the variants and PrCs, none of them seem to fit Lane's concept. WayneLigon: thanks for that Lawful and Chaotic article. It does make sense, although I sometimes wonder why they didn't call it Order instead of Law... it almost sounds like Lawful characters are Confucian and Chaotic characters are Taoist. Well, okay, that's probably not the best analogy. I've never liked D&D's pseudo-Gnostic Gygaxian cosmology anyway. Even without the Absolut Morality, it's ****ing goofy. Elf Witch: it's going to be fun either way. If she betrays the Citadel, they'll no doubt send the King's Shadows to hunt her down. If she betrays the party, they'll probably kill her and take her stuff. For a brand new player, she sure has chosen a difficult role. And by the way, this *is* a very RP-heavy game, with much more focus on intrigue than dungeon-trashing and players who care more about character development than powergaming. Umbran: dead on. What I'm wondering is whether her powers derive from adherence to a *personal* Code or from her status as an agent of the King's Swords (and sworn defender of the Brelish crown). gizmo33: very funny. And finally, I want to add one last little thing, regarding the nature of alignment in Eberron. I quote (ECS, p. 35): "A cleric who violates the tenets of her church or deity might risk punishment at the hands of the church... but risks no loss of spells or class features and need not atone. This rule supersedes the information under Ex-Clerics on page 33 of the Player's Handbook." Meanwhile, on p. 39: "Paladins are called to a strict and exalted life, and are mystically held to a higher standard than even clerics. A cleric of the Church of the Silver Flame can fall into heresy or even adopt an evil alignment and still retain all his abilities, but a paladin must rise above the corruption that plagues almost every church and cling to the highest ideals of her faith." Why the double standard? [/QUOTE]
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