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Is this Paladin's Mount Broken?
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<blockquote data-quote="Diirk" data-source="post: 1976847" data-attributes="member: 14476"><p>Your first paragraph is basically right, that stat block is way off tho... the info you want is pages 204-205 of the DMG. </p><p></p><p>Firstly, you don't roll stats for the mount, as stated in the mount sidebar on p45 of the PHB, you use stats as per the average of the race. So 18 str, 15 dex, 16 con, 5 int, 13 wis, 6 cha. That gets raised to 20 str and 7 int because of the paladins level. HP, saves, attack, ac etc will be lower because of this.</p><p></p><p>Secondly, the mount doesn't get the paladins saves... it gets the paladins BASE saves, and applies its own modifiers. For a 13th level paladin this means the mount gets +8 fort, +4 reflex/will. However as a 11 HD magical beast, its own base reflex save of +7 is better, so it uses that isntead. Then it applies its own modifiers, and winds up with saves of +11 fort, +9 reflex, +5 will. (+7 will with iron will)</p><p></p><p>Thirdly, you have a different list of feats than what the MM has for griffons... This is meant to be an average member of its race, not a mount custom raised and trained specifically for your paladin <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Up to you on this one at the end of the day tho.</p><p></p><p>Fourthly, no equipment for it unless the paladin pays.. you didn't specify if that was the case or not.</p><p></p><p>Lastly, It can only carry a light load while flying. 266 lbs or less. (For some reason a griffon is treated as bipedal, not quadrapedal for carrying capacity. This also means it can't act as a mount on the ground, only in air.. compare it to the hippogriff that has both a air carrying capacity and a ground one on page 205 of DMG)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Diirk, post: 1976847, member: 14476"] Your first paragraph is basically right, that stat block is way off tho... the info you want is pages 204-205 of the DMG. Firstly, you don't roll stats for the mount, as stated in the mount sidebar on p45 of the PHB, you use stats as per the average of the race. So 18 str, 15 dex, 16 con, 5 int, 13 wis, 6 cha. That gets raised to 20 str and 7 int because of the paladins level. HP, saves, attack, ac etc will be lower because of this. Secondly, the mount doesn't get the paladins saves... it gets the paladins BASE saves, and applies its own modifiers. For a 13th level paladin this means the mount gets +8 fort, +4 reflex/will. However as a 11 HD magical beast, its own base reflex save of +7 is better, so it uses that isntead. Then it applies its own modifiers, and winds up with saves of +11 fort, +9 reflex, +5 will. (+7 will with iron will) Thirdly, you have a different list of feats than what the MM has for griffons... This is meant to be an average member of its race, not a mount custom raised and trained specifically for your paladin ;) Up to you on this one at the end of the day tho. Fourthly, no equipment for it unless the paladin pays.. you didn't specify if that was the case or not. Lastly, It can only carry a light load while flying. 266 lbs or less. (For some reason a griffon is treated as bipedal, not quadrapedal for carrying capacity. This also means it can't act as a mount on the ground, only in air.. compare it to the hippogriff that has both a air carrying capacity and a ground one on page 205 of DMG) [/QUOTE]
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