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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Croesus" data-source="post: 7054221" data-attributes="member: 35019">I realize the scenario appears to be playing out differently (just one or two PCs involved), but thought you would find my account helpful.A few months back, a party of 5 PCs, levels 7-8) were exploring. The rogue went ahead and was surprised by two invisible barlguras. They hit four times out of six, including one crit. The rogue had only a few hit points and ran back to the rest of the party. The barlguras pursued and were easily wiped out by the remaining PCs.What this tells me: 1) Swinginess matters. If you throw 2 barlguras at the party and roll one crit (or more) early on, the battle can go south in a hurry. You have little margin for error. It didn't help that the rogue really blew her perception roll, allowing the surprise round. Had the rogue dropped at that point, she would have been dead long before the rest of the party could get to her. 2) Barlguras don't actually do huge amounts of damage (2d6+4, 1d10+4, 1d10+4), but have three attacks at +7. What are the ACs of the PCs? If the barlguras hit just three times out of six, average damage is 30 points. Can the party take that?3) Barlguras have relatively low hit points (68), though that means each still has more hit points than any of the party members. Can the PCs really do enough damage to take down one barlgura in a couple rounds?4) Barlguras are resistant to cold, fire and lightning. Based on the party makeup, it doesn't appear that will matter much, and since they don't have resistance to non-magical weapons, all PCs should be able to affect them.Hope this helps.</blockquote>

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