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<blockquote data-quote="BendBars/LiftGates" data-source="post: 4116900" data-attributes="member: 58779">Oh, wise and mighty EN World community. Your ways are just, and your words are as a sweet ambrosia of truth. I submit to thee a query:When 3rd Edition came out, I heard a lot of the same complaints from the people I gamed with as I do now with 4th Edition:&quot;They're dumbing the game down and taking away all the intricacies that I enjoyed.&quot;&quot;It isn't the same game as the one that I love playing.&quot;&quot;The new rules don't support the style of play that I like.&quot;&quot;There's nothing in here except fighting, fighting, fighting.&quot;&quot;This is soulless corporate gimmickery.&quot;&quot;It just doesn't feel like D&amp;D.&quot;They said that they would never switch and that they would only buy the core books in order to understand the rules for the purposes of converting later material. But they had switched over within months, at most.Maybe because this isn't the edition that I learned D&amp;D on, I don't have such sentimental attachment to 3rd Edition. It's just the usurper being usurped by yet another newcomer.So, do you think that this furor over 4th Edition is going to turn out to be much the same sort of panic at change and then coming to like the new edition?If you are proudly anti-4E, what can you tell me to convince me that this time you really mean it?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BendBars/LiftGates, post: 4116900, member: 58779"] Oh, wise and mighty EN World community. Your ways are just, and your words are as a sweet ambrosia of truth. I submit to thee a query: When 3rd Edition came out, I heard a lot of the same complaints from the people I gamed with as I do now with 4th Edition: "They're dumbing the game down and taking away all the intricacies that I enjoyed." "It isn't the same game as the one that I love playing." "The new rules don't support the style of play that I like." "There's nothing in here except fighting, fighting, fighting." "This is soulless corporate gimmickery." "It just doesn't feel like D&D." They said that they would never switch and that they would only buy the core books in order to understand the rules for the purposes of converting later material. But they had switched over within months, at most. Maybe because this isn't the edition that I learned D&D on, I don't have such sentimental attachment to 3rd Edition. It's just the usurper being usurped by yet another newcomer. So, do you think that this furor over 4th Edition is going to turn out to be much the same sort of panic at change and then coming to like the new edition? If you are proudly anti-4E, what can you tell me to convince me that this time you really mean it? [/QUOTE]

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