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<blockquote data-quote="Toben the Many" data-source="post: 4117782" data-attributes="member: 19273"><p><a href="http://groups.google.com/group/rec....ca0c3ec1e7447d9" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/rec....ca0c3ec1e7447d9</a></p><p></p><p>See, when I go back and look at these old discussions, I don't see the same thing going on. I think there were certainly many people who did not like the change from 2e to 3e. But I really don't remember the <em>amount</em> vitriol that I see now. Also, I remember the complaints coming from a smaller percentage of the folks on the boards and such. It was a few lonely criers in the wilderness. Now, it seems like there are quite a number of people who are displeased, though those people are still very much in the minority. </p><p></p><p>I think that there will be inevitably be some parallels between the release of new editions in the Internet Age. However, it's not a fair comparison to compare the release of 4e to the release of 3e. Because 3rd Edition was a massive phenomenon. It totally transformed the role-playing game industry. The only other game that I remember transforming the industry like that was Vampire: The Masquerade. </p><p></p><p>Now, WotC could just be that lucky and just be that good - but I simply don't see how they could arrange for lightning to strike twice. I'm not saying that 4e won't be a success. My prediction is that it will be a smashing success. At this point, all they have to do is show up. That much is clear based on the sales of Races & Classes and Worlds & Monsters.</p><p></p><p>However, is it going to be a <em>phenomenon</em> like 3e was? Sure, it's possible. But I think that's like winning the Superbowl two years in a row. It's really darn hard to do that. </p><p></p><p>So that brings me to...the difference of reactions you are seeing over 4e. I think the reactions over 3e were generally more positive because it came at the right time, offered the right things, had the right mindset, and was in tremendous demand.</p><p></p><p>In short - 3e came at a really good time. So it was more welcome than 4e. 4e is coming a <em>bit</em> early. So there's more complaining. </p><p></p><p>But it won't matter, because 4e will do very well, and most people will convert. It's inevitable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Toben the Many, post: 4117782, member: 19273"] [url]http://groups.google.com/group/rec....ca0c3ec1e7447d9[/url] See, when I go back and look at these old discussions, I don't see the same thing going on. I think there were certainly many people who did not like the change from 2e to 3e. But I really don't remember the [i]amount[/i] vitriol that I see now. Also, I remember the complaints coming from a smaller percentage of the folks on the boards and such. It was a few lonely criers in the wilderness. Now, it seems like there are quite a number of people who are displeased, though those people are still very much in the minority. I think that there will be inevitably be some parallels between the release of new editions in the Internet Age. However, it's not a fair comparison to compare the release of 4e to the release of 3e. Because 3rd Edition was a massive phenomenon. It totally transformed the role-playing game industry. The only other game that I remember transforming the industry like that was Vampire: The Masquerade. Now, WotC could just be that lucky and just be that good - but I simply don't see how they could arrange for lightning to strike twice. I'm not saying that 4e won't be a success. My prediction is that it will be a smashing success. At this point, all they have to do is show up. That much is clear based on the sales of Races & Classes and Worlds & Monsters. However, is it going to be a [i]phenomenon[/i] like 3e was? Sure, it's possible. But I think that's like winning the Superbowl two years in a row. It's really darn hard to do that. So that brings me to...the difference of reactions you are seeing over 4e. I think the reactions over 3e were generally more positive because it came at the right time, offered the right things, had the right mindset, and was in tremendous demand. In short - 3e came at a really good time. So it was more welcome than 4e. 4e is coming a [i]bit[/i] early. So there's more complaining. But it won't matter, because 4e will do very well, and most people will convert. It's inevitable. [/QUOTE]
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