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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jeff Wilder" data-source="post: 4117800" data-attributes="member: 5122">For some people, sure.  For many, no.Speaking personally, I dropped 2E because it grew bloated and stupid.  It wasn't modular, so really the only way to add new stuff and make it "interesting" was to make it more powerful.  3E brought me back in the game.  I griped a tiny bit about 3.5, but (1) I hadn't all that much invested in 3E, and (2) I agreed with nearly every change made between 3E and 3.5.  So I switched immediately.None of that holds true for me in 3.5-to-4E.  Sure, there's a crap-load of stuff, and some of it is badly balanced.  (And no matter what anybody tells you, additional options always make for incremental power creep.)  But most of it is well done.  And the 3.5 engine itself, while having flaws (especially, speaking as a DM, for me), is IMO fundamentally sound.  I have every WotC product released for 3.5 and like and use (or want to use) a large majority of them.  Finally, I disagree with some of the changes made in 4E.There's a lot I like about 4E.  But the more I learn, the more I grow to agree with those folks who say that it doesn't feel like D&D.  When I came back to D&D with 3E, it still felt like D&D.  4E doesn't.  I don't hate the fluff of 4E, in a vacuum.  Some of it, in fact, I quite like.  But it's not D&D fluff.  Also, there are a couple of rules changes in 4E that are just so bone-headed and that feel so contemptuous of gamers that they're deal-breakers for me outright.  (I also feel that way about the marketing campaign.)So I'm not exactly the target of your questions, I guess.  I don't consider myself a 4E hater, and I hope the game is successful, as WotC deserves my well-wishes for bringing me back to D&D, which I've loved (off and on) for 27 years.  And I obviously never hated 3E or said I wasn't going to buy into it.But I'll never buy 4E.  If I can't find enough 3.5 or Pathfinder players for a good game for the next decade, I'll drop D&D (as I did with 2E, with no regrets, and as I did with the new edition of the Miniatures game, which is based on 4E), and find M&M or True20 or Hero or Buffy:tRPG players ... and hope in several years to love 5E as I do 3E and 3.5.</blockquote>

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