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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Set" data-source="post: 4118335" data-attributes="member: 41584">It was the opposite for our group.  The Dragon previews of 3E had us excited, and the game looked like it was going to have *more* options and be the exact opposite of 'dumbed down.'  (At the twilight of 2nd Ed, kits and such were getting pretty darn annoying.  Then again, PrC proliferation is doing the same these days, and we've just stopped using Prestige Classes, so that is a point of similarity.)  Thanks to Dragon, we were all ready and eager to get our 3.0 PHBs, and then kinda pissed off when they reprinted them with errata a few months later and we had to buy them all over again...  (Which we did.)With 3.5, we were a little leary of whether or not the game *needed* a new edition (and I don't think it really did), but we still greatly enjoyed the new Druid, Ranger, Monk, Barbarian tweaks, and the occasional new spell like Scorching Ray.With 4E, the game is evolving even more radically than it did between 2E and 3E, and the direction it seems to be going in doesn't suit our playstyle.  We do play and love Warhammer Quest as a beer-and-pretzels game, but D&D has always filled a different niche for us, and a session doesn't have to have a combat, and rarely ever used maps or minis, which take up valuable pizza-holding place on the table.</blockquote>