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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 2309311" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>No insinuation - just a clarification that your stated position does not coincide with the operation of world at large. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right. Correct me if I am wrong, but you seem to believe it is okay for someone to decide when and how to use things that don't belong to them. Whether it is computer bandwidth, your livingroom TV, or the contents of your fridge makes little difference. It doesn't belong to you, yet you claim the right to decide to use it (even if you currently do not do so). From where do you draw this right?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah, but when did you get to decide what counts as "selectively and with care", and to which resources you may apply this, and which you may not? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It is far more clear in the electronic world - in the real world, folks all understand that it isn't okay to walk through another person's home to get to where they are going. But somehow this is considered acceptable on the internet. People who wouldn't think of borrowing a bicycle without permission will happly steal bandwidth, and then brag about it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Your car, your house, and your TV can also all be used without your consent, with no noticible cost to you. Someone could borrow your car, drive it to the grocery and back, and you'd never notice a thing if you didn't need it at the time. Just as with bandwidth - you borrow it, and the person doesn't notice unless they engage in large downloads while you're borrowing.</p><p></p><p>If the issue is "can be used with no harm/nocitible cost to the owner", then there's no reason to differentiate between bandwidth and automobiles. The fact that one is material and the other not isn't compelling. Resources are resources. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The major breakdown I see is that the things I previously phrased referring to the plural you seem to have taken to mean you, in particular. I'm pretty sure you, personally, don't comprise "many of you", and therefore should consider the possibility that what I was saying didn't apply to you personally in all particulars.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 2309311, member: 177"] No insinuation - just a clarification that your stated position does not coincide with the operation of world at large. Right. Correct me if I am wrong, but you seem to believe it is okay for someone to decide when and how to use things that don't belong to them. Whether it is computer bandwidth, your livingroom TV, or the contents of your fridge makes little difference. It doesn't belong to you, yet you claim the right to decide to use it (even if you currently do not do so). From where do you draw this right? Ah, but when did you get to decide what counts as "selectively and with care", and to which resources you may apply this, and which you may not? It is far more clear in the electronic world - in the real world, folks all understand that it isn't okay to walk through another person's home to get to where they are going. But somehow this is considered acceptable on the internet. People who wouldn't think of borrowing a bicycle without permission will happly steal bandwidth, and then brag about it. Your car, your house, and your TV can also all be used without your consent, with no noticible cost to you. Someone could borrow your car, drive it to the grocery and back, and you'd never notice a thing if you didn't need it at the time. Just as with bandwidth - you borrow it, and the person doesn't notice unless they engage in large downloads while you're borrowing. If the issue is "can be used with no harm/nocitible cost to the owner", then there's no reason to differentiate between bandwidth and automobiles. The fact that one is material and the other not isn't compelling. Resources are resources. The major breakdown I see is that the things I previously phrased referring to the plural you seem to have taken to mean you, in particular. I'm pretty sure you, personally, don't comprise "many of you", and therefore should consider the possibility that what I was saying didn't apply to you personally in all particulars. [/QUOTE]
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