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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7692855" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>This comes up every time we do a John Wick thread.</p><p></p><p>RPG's are not movies. They are just not. Direct comparisons between the two are almost always invalid. The point of playing an RPG is not to create the script of a movie. Any transcript of an RPG would need to be adapted to be a good script for a non-interactive medium. Movies and RPGs are fundamentally different story telling mediums. Cinematic action in an RPG is fine, but it's not what an RPG is about and there are lots of things that you can do in an RPG that you can't do in a movie and vica versa there are things that make sense in movie logic that have no place in an RPG.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It might not have been a better movie, but Indy would have been much smarter had he instead of racing boulders and dodging darts, puttied up the dart holes and used a grappling hook to exit the tombs through the hole in the roof rather than facing a bunch of death traps and getting captured by Bellock. Actually, once he triggered the first dart, he could have instead of tip toeing across those traps, easily have disarmed every trap by the same method. He didn't, because since this is a movie there is actually zero chance that the darts will hit him. It might not have been as exciting to a hypothetical audience to disarm each trap, but while you make movies for a passive audience, you don't play an RPG primarily for the audience. You play an RPG for the participants. </p><p></p><p>You see there is a fundamental problem with movie logic in an RPG. In a movie, there is literally no chance of the protagonist failing. There is nothing actually on the line. The protagonist can do anything, and the protagonist is ultimately going to win anyway - often through the selective stupidity of the antagonists. In an RPG, the protagonist really can lose. He's really risking defeat. So its natural that the protagonist is actually cunning rather than movie stupid.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7692855, member: 4937"] This comes up every time we do a John Wick thread. RPG's are not movies. They are just not. Direct comparisons between the two are almost always invalid. The point of playing an RPG is not to create the script of a movie. Any transcript of an RPG would need to be adapted to be a good script for a non-interactive medium. Movies and RPGs are fundamentally different story telling mediums. Cinematic action in an RPG is fine, but it's not what an RPG is about and there are lots of things that you can do in an RPG that you can't do in a movie and vica versa there are things that make sense in movie logic that have no place in an RPG. It might not have been a better movie, but Indy would have been much smarter had he instead of racing boulders and dodging darts, puttied up the dart holes and used a grappling hook to exit the tombs through the hole in the roof rather than facing a bunch of death traps and getting captured by Bellock. Actually, once he triggered the first dart, he could have instead of tip toeing across those traps, easily have disarmed every trap by the same method. He didn't, because since this is a movie there is actually zero chance that the darts will hit him. It might not have been as exciting to a hypothetical audience to disarm each trap, but while you make movies for a passive audience, you don't play an RPG primarily for the audience. You play an RPG for the participants. You see there is a fundamental problem with movie logic in an RPG. In a movie, there is literally no chance of the protagonist failing. There is nothing actually on the line. The protagonist can do anything, and the protagonist is ultimately going to win anyway - often through the selective stupidity of the antagonists. In an RPG, the protagonist really can lose. He's really risking defeat. So its natural that the protagonist is actually cunning rather than movie stupid. [/QUOTE]
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