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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7693259" data-attributes="member: 22779">On the idea of reports and cheating:Look, I'm not saying the people who reported succeeding at the module were automatically cheating, but, lets face facts.  What are the odds that a group of 6-8 people with zero preparation and pre-gen characters could successfully navigate the ToH in 3-4 hours?  It's pretty hard to believe.What is perhaps easier to believe is those 6-8 players listened in on earlier tables running the module, talked to other players who played the module previously, and generally canvassed as much information as they could about the module beforehand and thus managed to complete the module due to a pretty healthy running head start.Granted, it might be that they were just that good.  They managed to defeat the entire module completely on their own.  That is certainly a possibility.  But, IMO, it's likely not what happened.  They defeated the ToH the same way that most home games did it - they had a pretty large amount of forewarning from other players and perhaps even had access to the Monster Manual II.Heh, my own group did ToH after playing the G series.  Which meant we had an intelligent sword that detected secret doors and a +5 Hammer of Thunderbolts.  Made the module fairly easy to defeat.  But, a group doing this with the pre-gens?  With zero forewarning?  And only first-person accounts of the event?  I remain healthily skeptical.</blockquote>

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