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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JonnyP71" data-source="post: 7693279" data-attributes="member: 6788862">Imho that was the only way to run it - the PCs were in one group Cleric 12/Paladin 11/Bard 5-7-8/Monk 11/Mage 13, the smaller group used Cleric 13/Paladin 12/Monk 11/Mage 14 - I ensured such spells as Transmute Rock to Mud, Dimension Door, Wizard Eye, Shatter, Forget and Legend Lore were in the Mages' spellbooks, and the Cleric began with Find Traps, Commune and True Seeing, magic items were the aforementioned +4 defender, along with a few protection devices, a Horn of Valhalla, a Staff of Power (with very limited charges), and Slippers of Spider Climb - items commensurate to a party of that level.  They still failed - but they did well to get as far as they did - the group of newbies didn't realise they were safe to rest and the last character alive (the Monk) reached Acererak without ever resting.  The other group did realise resting was safe, but crucially lost their Paladin to the exploding Altar.  It was their Mage who managed to escape alive.I would never throw it into a campaign.  Not ever.  But as an interesting diversion to an existing campaign, with characters to whom the party had no emotional attachment, it was superb.Plus, it has really changed the newbies' play style - they have approached 5E ever since with a more intelligent mindset, thinking much more cooperatively about their actions.  And that has been the module's biggest win.  From a DMing point of view, I really enjoyed seeing how the module engaged players who had previously sat back and let the game go on around them.  Rather than charging around, hacking at almost anything in sight, they were stopping to think, and to study their surroundings, examining the puzzles, thoroughly deconstructing the clues.In short, it was brilliant for all of us, and is now one of my favourite modules ever produced.</blockquote>

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