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Message: <blockquote data-quote="3.5newbie" data-source="post: 2702938" data-attributes="member: 37695">At mid- to high levels, I agree that the "no magic items vs. VoP bonuses" is the critical issue. Starting a 1st level monk, I have another concern: it's highly painful to part with two feats for a starting character.Starting with a human monk with two UA flaws you can put together a mix of six feets (including IUS). With those feats one can -- barely -- create an effective offensive package, with Imp. Int., Pwr Strike, Flying Kick, Power Attack (Iaj.), & Stunning Fist, for example.Delete any two of those choices to lock in VoP and you'll have a character with a nice AC but is anemic offensively and behind in the race for complete MA styles and prerequistes.I'd say VoP is pretty balanced overall, but, despite the awesome AC bonus, maybe a little bit of a disadvantage in the early game.</blockquote>