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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nyeshet" data-source="post: 2706286" data-attributes="member: 18363">Therein lies the error. By taking and destroying the looted magic items he was effectively using them (to empower his class features), thus breaking his vow. The Vow of Poverty does not mean that one is simply to live in poverty. They do not simply allow their comrads to take and use their share of the loot. It is expected that one will still recieve their fair share of the loot - but not use it for themselves or their allies. Instead they seek out the destitute, those truely in need, and use the loot to aid them. Perhaps they negotiate with a local lord, giving him the nice +2 Mithril Chain Shirt he found in exchange for the lord building (or sponcering the building of) a shelter for the homeless or a new church (of a religion known for helping the pour - not one that typically deals with the wealthy, etc). Perhaps he will use his share of the gold in the last adventure to help rebuild the homes destroyed in a recent fire. He does not waste the items (such as tossing the gold down a well or into the sea) or use them for himself (either using the items directly or "giving" them to others in exchange for later favors). The Forsaker cannot destroy any magic item looted as such would come under one or both of the prior reasons. The only benefit from the destruction (unless the object was innately evil - such as a lich's phylactery, a sentient evil weapon, an artifact / relic of an evil deity, etc) is to the Forsaker. He is both gaining from the use of the magic items (in destroying them) and wasting wealth better spent toward the betterment of others less fortunate. Your friend seemed so powerful because he was misinterpretting the rules and the DM didn't catch him at it. By the RAW what he was doing was not in the spirit of the vow. He should have lost it (or received a warning) after the first time he destroyed a (not innately and irrevocably evil) magic item. And considering that there are rules in the BoED for removing the taint (and subtype) of evil from such items, it is even less likely that he will ever come upon magic items he can destroy while remaining in the spirit of the vow.</blockquote>

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