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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gabrion" data-source="post: 2706532" data-attributes="member: 30779">I just want to chime in to offer a few things on this topic.I frequent the COB at wizards and it is usually accepted that a character well suited to the feat (soulknife, monk, druid, and others depending on how your DM treats this), is better off than a standard wealth character up till about level ten.  After that things go downhill for a VoP character and by 15th level they fall far behind the party curve.That said, I will second the point already brought up that druids are really the ideal class for this feat.  The reasons are... <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The feat benefits low level character more than high level ones.  Something that helps druids before 5th level is better in a certain way than stuff that helps them after that point (wild shape).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">On a similar note, feat selection for druids before 6th level is arguably less important than some other classes, so a human druid using both first level feats to get VoP won't be hurting the same way a monk or psion would.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Wild Shape!  Some of the best wild shape forms lose the benefits of equipment, so if unless you are going to be running around as a legendary ape all the time (which is a fine alternative as well), you won't really lose anything by using the VoP.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">No MAD.  Unlike monks, druids only need to worry about one stat, so the fact that they can't spend money to boost multiple stats isn't really an issue.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spellcasting.  Druids (for some crazy reason) are full casters, so they can overcome a lot of obstacles that non-casters need to use magic items to overcome.  As such they aren't limited as much by the VoP restrictions.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Exalted Feats.  A lot of these feats are of great use to druids.  Animal Friend, Intuitive Strike (if you leave your wild shape for some reason or it has a lower STR than your WIS), exalted animal companion, exalted wild shape, Nymph's Kiss (extra skill points are good for anyone), stigmata (if your DM doesn't give you extra HP for the CON change when you assume wild shape), and Touch of Golden Ice+Venomstike are all good options.  If you don't like the available feats, you can always wait till you have enough money to buy a Tome of Clear Though +5 and then take VoP the next level.</li> </ul>To say a few quick words about a monk, I think the class doesn't do so well with VoP.  It is nice for RPing an ascetic, but since monks are weak to begin with, careful feat and gear selection is crucial.  Anyway, I love druids almost as much as I love clerics.  Nothing is more fun than a Venerable Jermlaine VoP druid!</blockquote>

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