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<blockquote data-quote="Conaill" data-source="post: 2715935" data-attributes="member: 1264"><p><em>In-game</em>, I would say that any paladin worth his salt would gladly give up whatever personal vow he made, and all the benefits that come with it, in order to "defeat the marauding demon army that is destroying the kingdom" at the request of his own church.</p><p></p><p>Personal sacrifice should pale in comparison to the greater good, and the paladin shouldn't even think twice to make that choice. Just like he shouldn't think twice to give his own *life* (let alone some ability bonuses) for the same goal.</p><p></p><p>As for breaking a promise he made to his god... if his god asks him to break that promise, who is he to refuse? Unless he believes the orders of his church contradict his gods wishes (e.g. a corrupt church hierarchy), he should follow them regardless of personal loss or prior arrangements. It would be supreme arrogance to claim that a paladin's word to his god outranks that gods wishes...</p><p></p><p></p><p><em>Out of game</em>, I think it's probably not the best idea for a DM to put his paladin player into a situation like that. Although the paladin player should be able to figure out what to to quite easily (see above). It may lead to some cool roleplaying to strip the paladin from his VoP powers while he's in posession of the sword (which probably gives him some additional powers anyway). But it would be cruel and unfair of the DM not to restore those powers after the quest has been completed...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Conaill, post: 2715935, member: 1264"] [i]In-game[/i], I would say that any paladin worth his salt would gladly give up whatever personal vow he made, and all the benefits that come with it, in order to "defeat the marauding demon army that is destroying the kingdom" at the request of his own church. Personal sacrifice should pale in comparison to the greater good, and the paladin shouldn't even think twice to make that choice. Just like he shouldn't think twice to give his own *life* (let alone some ability bonuses) for the same goal. As for breaking a promise he made to his god... if his god asks him to break that promise, who is he to refuse? Unless he believes the orders of his church contradict his gods wishes (e.g. a corrupt church hierarchy), he should follow them regardless of personal loss or prior arrangements. It would be supreme arrogance to claim that a paladin's word to his god outranks that gods wishes... [i]Out of game[/i], I think it's probably not the best idea for a DM to put his paladin player into a situation like that. Although the paladin player should be able to figure out what to to quite easily (see above). It may lead to some cool roleplaying to strip the paladin from his VoP powers while he's in posession of the sword (which probably gives him some additional powers anyway). But it would be cruel and unfair of the DM not to restore those powers after the quest has been completed... [/QUOTE]
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