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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 2716182" data-attributes="member: 111">Well, it's the player who chose to use VoP knowing it's limitations.  The DM really should put his players in position that cause real dilemmas for things like VoP.The DM also should modify VoP enough to allow at least some way of atoning for failing to live up to the vow.However, the end does NOT justify the means whatsoever for an Exalted character.  If VoP is the divine source of your power and you fail to live up to it - too bad for you!  Remember that VoP Exalted characters really do believe they are better than everyone else and have their own standards of conduct that other may simply not understand.A "no-win" situation for a VoP character should be coinsidered a divine test.  I see three possible outcomes:1.  The character stays true to the vow and somehow find a way to complete the mission.2.  There is no possible way to complete the mission without violating the vow.  The gods set this up, and, if the character does give up the vow for the mission, the gods reward this decision by doing something really cool to the character.  Perhaps the lesson learned is that poverty is NOT the correct path for this characte and the gods (aka DM) retrofit the character to remove the vow and replace it with something else.3.  The character fails to complete the mission as he sees his vow as being more important. In such a case Bad Things may happen because of the failure of the mission, as well as, no doubt, falling out of favor with the church hierarchy.</blockquote>

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