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<blockquote data-quote="Nonlethal Force" data-source="post: 2719173" data-attributes="member: 35788"><p>Here here ... if only there was a DM out there who enjoyed working with the players rather than always trying to screw them over! Now ... where does one find one of those ...</p><p></p><p>Anyway, back on topic: I tend to take a hard line on the VoP and <strong>use</strong> of non-mundane items or <strong>spending</strong> of money. Its never allowed. Sorry. That's just the way I DM. [I do not consider outright donation to the poor/needy/church be a part of "spending."]</p><p></p><p>But, I also never put my players in a situation where it is "Keep your vow and forget the quest OR Break the vow and finish the quest." To me that is just bad planning on the DM.</p><p></p><p>In My Homebrew World (Key words being My and Homebrew) the church would be smart enough not to send in said VoP person alone to rescue the famed <em>Glorious Holy Artifact of Vow of Poverty Breaking</em>. The VoP player might be sent in as an assistant to someone who could bring forth the item ... but give organized religion some credit, please. Deities are supposed to have it all figured out. Churches have many followers - even the secretive ones. Find a companion (or six) for the VoP character so that the VoP character can have fun with their vow and someone else can stand in the limelight and actually tote the thing home.</p><p></p><p>VoP characters seldom get the glory for the BBEG, but they earn the respect of the commonfolk. Seriously, if you were starving out on the street and someone came by toting the huge sword and someone else came by and gave you enough money or food so that you could eat for the rest of the week ... who would you remember? That is the kind of glory that an exhalted character taking the VoP seeks.</p><p></p><p>And lets not forget, people. VoP characters are not just good, they are infact exhalted. That is significant. Your ordinary good paladin and a VoP character need not be the same mindset at all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nonlethal Force, post: 2719173, member: 35788"] Here here ... if only there was a DM out there who enjoyed working with the players rather than always trying to screw them over! Now ... where does one find one of those ... Anyway, back on topic: I tend to take a hard line on the VoP and [B]use[/B] of non-mundane items or [B]spending[/B] of money. Its never allowed. Sorry. That's just the way I DM. [I do not consider outright donation to the poor/needy/church be a part of "spending."] But, I also never put my players in a situation where it is "Keep your vow and forget the quest OR Break the vow and finish the quest." To me that is just bad planning on the DM. In My Homebrew World (Key words being My and Homebrew) the church would be smart enough not to send in said VoP person alone to rescue the famed [I]Glorious Holy Artifact of Vow of Poverty Breaking[/I]. The VoP player might be sent in as an assistant to someone who could bring forth the item ... but give organized religion some credit, please. Deities are supposed to have it all figured out. Churches have many followers - even the secretive ones. Find a companion (or six) for the VoP character so that the VoP character can have fun with their vow and someone else can stand in the limelight and actually tote the thing home. VoP characters seldom get the glory for the BBEG, but they earn the respect of the commonfolk. Seriously, if you were starving out on the street and someone came by toting the huge sword and someone else came by and gave you enough money or food so that you could eat for the rest of the week ... who would you remember? That is the kind of glory that an exhalted character taking the VoP seeks. And lets not forget, people. VoP characters are not just good, they are infact exhalted. That is significant. Your ordinary good paladin and a VoP character need not be the same mindset at all. [/QUOTE]
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