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<blockquote data-quote="Moon-Lancer" data-source="post: 2720416" data-attributes="member: 35798"><p>I still believe a vop character should uphold his vop under any other circumstance. it balances the feat somewhat. If my characters god told me to use a sword to smite bbeg, I would tell that god, that it would violate my vow. If the god gets angry at being declined because she (ehlona) wanted my character to do something that would violate the vow, well that god is just going to have to grow up. </p><p></p><p>It says exaltedness shouldn’t be used as a commodity or sacrifice to stop evil. I think that some mentality should be used on sacred vow feats. Vop is not something to throw away or sacrifice for the greater good. By breaking your vow you are helping evil in the long run (even if you kill the bbeg who might have distoryed the world) </p><p></p><p>Exaltedness isn’t so much like the human condition that we face everyday, so if one trys to understand good and evil in conventional methods, one is only going to upset themselves. This is why boed is mature. </p><p></p><p>Read the book if you don’t understand. Its explanation of good and evil may differ from yours but it really sets things into perspective for vop.</p><p></p><p>It’s quite interesting in the campaign I am in though. We are playing with a freer alignment system then vop should have, where nothing has a predestined alignment (except for undead) so i can’t just kill orcs because i know that all or orcs are evil in the monster manual. Also detect evil spells detect evil from your perspective (clear cutters might be evil from a druids point of view) (more like real life) its quite fun. This is probably going to add fun role play situations of moral and ethics. It’s going to get challenging trying to keep exaltedness when none is truly good or evil, or right and wrong, but its going to be fun. It’s a more exiteing challenge then trying to beat the dm. I still try to adhear to the code in boed's though.</p><p></p><p>I hope everyone has fun with vop and exalted play. It has brought up many political and social sciences and addressed many issues of thought. yay Socrates… my hero!!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Moon-Lancer, post: 2720416, member: 35798"] I still believe a vop character should uphold his vop under any other circumstance. it balances the feat somewhat. If my characters god told me to use a sword to smite bbeg, I would tell that god, that it would violate my vow. If the god gets angry at being declined because she (ehlona) wanted my character to do something that would violate the vow, well that god is just going to have to grow up. It says exaltedness shouldn’t be used as a commodity or sacrifice to stop evil. I think that some mentality should be used on sacred vow feats. Vop is not something to throw away or sacrifice for the greater good. By breaking your vow you are helping evil in the long run (even if you kill the bbeg who might have distoryed the world) Exaltedness isn’t so much like the human condition that we face everyday, so if one trys to understand good and evil in conventional methods, one is only going to upset themselves. This is why boed is mature. Read the book if you don’t understand. Its explanation of good and evil may differ from yours but it really sets things into perspective for vop. It’s quite interesting in the campaign I am in though. We are playing with a freer alignment system then vop should have, where nothing has a predestined alignment (except for undead) so i can’t just kill orcs because i know that all or orcs are evil in the monster manual. Also detect evil spells detect evil from your perspective (clear cutters might be evil from a druids point of view) (more like real life) its quite fun. This is probably going to add fun role play situations of moral and ethics. It’s going to get challenging trying to keep exaltedness when none is truly good or evil, or right and wrong, but its going to be fun. It’s a more exiteing challenge then trying to beat the dm. I still try to adhear to the code in boed's though. I hope everyone has fun with vop and exalted play. It has brought up many political and social sciences and addressed many issues of thought. yay Socrates… my hero!!! [/QUOTE]
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