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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Marflarius" data-source="post: 5678888" data-attributes="member: 6682335">Ok so obviously I'm a bit late into this discussion but. .  I'm deployed in Afghanistan right now and am wanting to make a Monk type character with VoP (I've done lots of research into it already but am having an extremely difficult time convincing my DM that it's not obscenely overpowered the way he thinks it is) and am just looking for some things that I could use to argue my point with, granted it's a different style of play then I'm used to since we're not using traditional DnD rules (It's a bit weird I must say)What he's doing is giving us "Build Points" and gave us a list/chart of things we can purchase with these points, feats, skills, abilities, stats, etc. and giving us a starting gold amount of 10k (not sure if that's standard, as it's been a while since I've played last) to a group of level 5 'characters' (each player gets to start at level 5)I've noticed in here that when it comes to VoP in a standard DnD campaign that, albeit the relatively strong start offs (Levels 1-6), that once the character starts reaching mid levels that it slowly becomes less useful than a normal character that would have access to magic items and the like, and just to note I've also offered the option to try and take some flaws (1 or 2, not that many) to try and degrade form the usefulness of it(Low Pain Threshold comes to mind to effectively eliminate the DR bonuses all the way to level 15!)Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.</blockquote>

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