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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 9853118" data-attributes="member: 4348">I have put out the way that some of this is figured out, and how I do numbers is that there are 5 fans/players for every PHB put out.  This means that if we estimate that 5 million PHB's and Red boxes (and then account for overlap, because there definately was overlap) of AD&D you could have anywhere from 15 million to 25 million "fans" of the game during that period.If we go with the higher number, back prior to 2020, if we had 3 million 5e PHB's sold, that would be around 15 million (5 to 1 rule) which would equal to be 40 million lifetime fans.If we go with the end cycle of 2023/2024 of 5e and say that there were 5 million PHB's sold, that would be around 25 million fans/players (not accounting for overlap).Which could lead to the maximum numbers of 50 million players and fans throughout D&D's lifetime.If we add on another 5 to 10 million (estimates of Beyond and 2024 5e sales...not including calculations for overlap which would absolutely be needed for a more accurate estimate) for a total of 2 million more PHB's sold in those methods, we arrive at around 55 to 60 million fans.I have no idea where the 80 million fans came from and I am surprised people are arguing that is even a number...but here we are.Also, it's crazy to see my numbers being used as an argument against my own statements...which is ironic and funny...but here we are.</blockquote>