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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 9853252" data-attributes="member: 4348">I never was.&nbsp; Did you not read my original post.&nbsp; That's lifetime fans.&nbsp; I calculated the number.&nbsp; I've calculated the numbers for over 5 years now from 40 million to present. I stated if anything, it had to be fans over the lifetime of D&amp;D...from the start.&nbsp;&nbsp; I said it was impossible that 80 million is the current number of fans. No one has posted any sources or anything at all the back up that 80 million claim.PS:&nbsp; My estimates of current numbers of players and active fans are a Lot lower than either of those as well.&nbsp; I posted that a while back, but people are arguing about 80 million being current numbers.&nbsp; My argument from the start is that it could not possibly be 80 million current fans.&nbsp; The numbers simply don't support it.&nbsp; If your argument is that we are discussing lifetime fans, then you probably should go back and address the initial statement&nbsp; I made regarding this matter which dealt with those numbers overall...and once again, when discussing my calculations I have always utilized it as fans over the entire history of D&amp;D...not current fans, though the wording may have made it seem like that was the number of currently active fans at times.I did NOT calculate anything with 80 million though...so...once again...source?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 9853252, member: 4348"] I never was. Did you not read my original post. That's lifetime fans. I calculated the number. I've calculated the numbers for over 5 years now from 40 million to present. I stated if anything, it had to be fans over the lifetime of D&D...from the start. I said it was impossible that 80 million is the current number of fans. No one has posted any sources or anything at all the back up that 80 million claim. PS: My estimates of current numbers of players and active fans are a Lot lower than either of those as well. I posted that a while back, but people are arguing about 80 million being current numbers. My argument from the start is that it could not possibly be 80 million current fans. The numbers simply don't support it. If your argument is that we are discussing lifetime fans, then you probably should go back and address the initial statement I made regarding this matter which dealt with those numbers overall...and once again, when discussing my calculations I have always utilized it as fans over the entire history of D&D...not current fans, though the wording may have made it seem like that was the number of currently active fans at times. I did NOT calculate anything with 80 million though...so...once again...source? [/QUOTE]

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