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<blockquote data-quote="Dragon Snack" data-source="post: 3695016" data-attributes="member: 9810"><p>Case, it's like you are reading my mind...</p><p></p><p></p><p>While I could quote your whole post and follow it with a QFT*, this sticks out for me. 3.5 was a let down that sucked a lot of the fun out of D&D for me and thus stoked the flame of discontent for WotC.</p><p></p><p>I was a huge proponent of 3.5 - <em>before it came out</em>. I thought it was going to fix some wonky rules and still be compatable with 3.0 (yeah, I drank the kool aid). Imagine my embarrassment when all it turned out to be was a collection of house rules that not only left wonky rules in place, but created it's own problems on top of that. Some of the nerfs were debatable (apparently Halflings were teh broke), but they certainly went overboard on some things while looking the other way on others. Let's not even talk about the out of left field power ups (Dwarves and Druids, I'm looking at you) or insulting changes (they wouldn't touch Half Orcs because they were "a popular race" and "it would be a disservice to fans", but Gnomes, eh, "nobody played Gnomes" - <em>I</em> played Gnomes). Then the insulting "you could be playing at the same table as someone still using the 3.0 rules and not even know it" (Hmm, it looks like they've taken <em>that line</em> off their website).</p><p></p><p>Kicked in the junk, yeah, that about covers it.</p><p></p><p>Since then, I don't trust WotC. Why do you think I've waited over a year to buy some books? As much as I love D&D, I'm certainly not going to go out of my way to "promote the hobby" for them.</p><p></p><p>That should probably also be taken as a cautionary tale for all the "4th edition now!" folks. Be careful what you wish for. 4th edition will be me taking my leave of D&D (unless it knocks my socks off, but see above), I've got plenty of other games I can play (and do).</p><p></p><p></p><p>*I will note that I actually <em>do like</em> supplements, more options = good. But it's definitely been taken to the extreme and a couple of my players have taken advantage of the fact that I don't gobble up every new book coming down the pike (lack of errata doesn't help).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dragon Snack, post: 3695016, member: 9810"] Case, it's like you are reading my mind... While I could quote your whole post and follow it with a QFT*, this sticks out for me. 3.5 was a let down that sucked a lot of the fun out of D&D for me and thus stoked the flame of discontent for WotC. I was a huge proponent of 3.5 - [i]before it came out[/i]. I thought it was going to fix some wonky rules and still be compatable with 3.0 (yeah, I drank the kool aid). Imagine my embarrassment when all it turned out to be was a collection of house rules that not only left wonky rules in place, but created it's own problems on top of that. Some of the nerfs were debatable (apparently Halflings were teh broke), but they certainly went overboard on some things while looking the other way on others. Let's not even talk about the out of left field power ups (Dwarves and Druids, I'm looking at you) or insulting changes (they wouldn't touch Half Orcs because they were "a popular race" and "it would be a disservice to fans", but Gnomes, eh, "nobody played Gnomes" - [i]I[/i] played Gnomes). Then the insulting "you could be playing at the same table as someone still using the 3.0 rules and not even know it" (Hmm, it looks like they've taken [i]that line[/i] off their website). Kicked in the junk, yeah, that about covers it. Since then, I don't trust WotC. Why do you think I've waited over a year to buy some books? As much as I love D&D, I'm certainly not going to go out of my way to "promote the hobby" for them. That should probably also be taken as a cautionary tale for all the "4th edition now!" folks. Be careful what you wish for. 4th edition will be me taking my leave of D&D (unless it knocks my socks off, but see above), I've got plenty of other games I can play (and do). *I will note that I actually [i]do like[/i] supplements, more options = good. But it's definitely been taken to the extreme and a couple of my players have taken advantage of the fact that I don't gobble up every new book coming down the pike (lack of errata doesn't help). [/QUOTE]
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