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<blockquote data-quote="Rune" data-source="post: 370131" data-attributes="member: 67">Strange.&nbsp; This has not been my experience.&nbsp; To me, the feel and the style are more fantastic (less euro-medieval based) and just a little more edgy.&nbsp; Furthermore, I've found that the new edition of the rules allows for far more creativity within the rules than the older editions.&nbsp; The older editions forced you to go outside the rules to be creative.&nbsp; Remember how every DM had a big binder of house-rules?&nbsp; How is that less &quot;scientific&quot; or more &quot;artistic?&quot;&nbsp; It just means that the rules are probably more ill-conceived and the rules lawyers have to be familiar with the house-rules.Quite so.&nbsp; Except that I've never found them to be cumbersome in the slightest.&nbsp; 2e Combat &amp; Tactics, on the other hand... I will admit that this may be because I was hanging around Eric's site since shortly after it went up and had a pretty good grasp of the combat mechanics before I ever got my hands on a PHB.&nbsp; I never, for instance, had a problem with WotC's explanation of the AoO, because I already knew how it worked and under what circumstances.&nbsp; Ultimately, however, the d20 System streamlines things.&nbsp; The point was to make D&amp;D less cumbersome.&nbsp; Thankfully, it worked marvelously well.I did read the context of your posts and I still maintain that &quot;~C&quot; does not follow from &quot;If A, then B.&quot;&nbsp; Whether you were quoting another person or not.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rune, post: 370131, member: 67"] Strange. This has not been my experience. To me, the feel and the style are more fantastic (less euro-medieval based) and just a little more edgy. Furthermore, I've found that the new edition of the rules allows for [i]far[/i] more creativity within the rules than the older editions. The older editions forced you to go [i]outside[/i] the rules to be creative. Remember how every DM had a big binder of house-rules? How is that less "scientific" or more "artistic?" It just means that the rules are probably more ill-conceived and the rules lawyers have to be familiar with the house-rules. Quite so. Except that I've never found them to be cumbersome in the slightest. 2e Combat & Tactics, on the other hand... I will admit that this may be because I was hanging around Eric's site since shortly after it went up and had a pretty good grasp of the combat mechanics before I ever got my hands on a PHB. I never, for instance, had a problem with WotC's explanation of the AoO, because I already knew how it worked and under what circumstances. Ultimately, however, the d20 System streamlines things. The point was to make D&D less cumbersome. Thankfully, it worked marvelously well. I did read the context of your posts and I still maintain that "~C" does not follow from "If A, then B." Whether you were quoting another person or not. [/QUOTE]

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