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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wedgeski" data-source="post: 4746126" data-attributes="member: 16212">Nice post Darrin, but I think you've been unfairly selective here.By all accounts Wizards didn't "pull the rug" from under Paizo, they extended the deal so that they could finish their current AP. Feedback from Paizo was always that the removal of the license was gutting, but amicable. Now if you're saying that pulling the license *at all* was equivalent to pulling the rug, I can't agree. That's a standard Wizards could never have achieved short of simply surrendering the license to Paizo in perpetuity. At some point, Paizo were going to have to give up that license. I think it *seemed* unfair at the time because of the quality they were pumping out, but Wizards wanted to try something new, so they did.Equally the same could be said of Wizards. You could say the revised GSL was long overdue, but then Paizo's license only came out I believe at the beginning of March? Seems comparable. Plus Paizo are building their business on the back of a license already granted by Wizards... it's hard for me to see them as leaders when they're standing on the shoulders of other peoples' work. I know that's an unpopular opinion, but I can't help but think it.Seems somewhat thin. GR have luxuries of size and independence that Wizards don't have. And which license are M&M and True20 based on again? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Without doubt their products are top notch, though.I have to agree that Mongoose are an excellent example of a company that formed during the OGL bubble and have asserted themselves all over the market. They're an inspiration, but I doubt even they would call themselves a market leader.IMO Wizards exceeds all of these companies in the areas you cited, as well as leading in their own fields in the ways you described. A previous poster said that Stan! had raised the bar to a level that no-one in the industry could achieve, and I have to agree. They may not be leading in the ways that Adkison, Dancy, et al envisioned, but where they go, others follow.</blockquote>

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