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Is WotC Wrong? - Shield Other and Damage Reduction
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<blockquote data-quote="Atavar" data-source="post: 3422087" data-attributes="member: 7136"><p>Hello Everyone,</p><p></p><p>One of my players recently asked WotC customer service about how DR works with the shield other spell. Here is the gist of WotC's answer:</p><p></p><p>-</p><p>Split the damage per the shield other spell, and then apply each person's DR separately to the damage received.</p><p>-</p><p></p><p>For example, the cleric casts shield other on the warforged fighter. The fighter has DR 3/-. The fighter is hit with a regular longsword for 8 points of damage. Per WotC's response, the fighter and the cleric each take 4 points of damage; the cleric takes all 4 points, while the fighter with DR only takes 1 point after damage reduction.</p><p></p><p>This absolutely contradicts my understanding of how shield other and DR are supposed to interact. In the above example, it was my understanding that the fighter is hit for 8 points, which is then reduced to 5 points after applying his own DR. The shield other then splits the 5 points of damage, with half (i.e. 2) of the points going to the fighter, and the remainder (i.e. 3) of the points going to the cleric.</p><p></p><p>It was also my understanding that if the cleric happened to have any DR then the damage he takes via shield other would not be reduced because DR would not apply in that instance. It would not apply because the damage is essentially untyped magical damage by the time it gets to the cleric, and that kind of damage is not subject to damage reduction.</p><p></p><p>So, per the RAW, am I correct, is WotC correct, or are we both wrong for some reason?</p><p></p><p>BTW, I invoked Rule Zero to have it work like I think it should for my campaign. Why? My cleric plans on making stonemeld armor from the Eberron Campaign Setting book. In part, the armor grants DR 5/-. He also plans to apply an armor crystal from the Magic Item Compendium that grants DR 5/- to armor. The DRs DO stack per the RAW, so he would have DR 10/- with this armor. If that were the case, and if shield other and DR worked like WotC says, then the recipient would need to take over 20 points of damage from a single source before ANY of the damage actually got through to damage the cleric.</p><p></p><p>Thanks,</p><p></p><p>Atavar</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Atavar, post: 3422087, member: 7136"] Hello Everyone, One of my players recently asked WotC customer service about how DR works with the shield other spell. Here is the gist of WotC's answer: - Split the damage per the shield other spell, and then apply each person's DR separately to the damage received. - For example, the cleric casts shield other on the warforged fighter. The fighter has DR 3/-. The fighter is hit with a regular longsword for 8 points of damage. Per WotC's response, the fighter and the cleric each take 4 points of damage; the cleric takes all 4 points, while the fighter with DR only takes 1 point after damage reduction. This absolutely contradicts my understanding of how shield other and DR are supposed to interact. In the above example, it was my understanding that the fighter is hit for 8 points, which is then reduced to 5 points after applying his own DR. The shield other then splits the 5 points of damage, with half (i.e. 2) of the points going to the fighter, and the remainder (i.e. 3) of the points going to the cleric. It was also my understanding that if the cleric happened to have any DR then the damage he takes via shield other would not be reduced because DR would not apply in that instance. It would not apply because the damage is essentially untyped magical damage by the time it gets to the cleric, and that kind of damage is not subject to damage reduction. So, per the RAW, am I correct, is WotC correct, or are we both wrong for some reason? BTW, I invoked Rule Zero to have it work like I think it should for my campaign. Why? My cleric plans on making stonemeld armor from the Eberron Campaign Setting book. In part, the armor grants DR 5/-. He also plans to apply an armor crystal from the Magic Item Compendium that grants DR 5/- to armor. The DRs DO stack per the RAW, so he would have DR 10/- with this armor. If that were the case, and if shield other and DR worked like WotC says, then the recipient would need to take over 20 points of damage from a single source before ANY of the damage actually got through to damage the cleric. Thanks, Atavar [/QUOTE]
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