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Is WotC Wrong? - Shield Other and Damage Reduction
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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3422260" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>It's... murkily worded, but I think I'd be inclined to say that the literal wording supports CustServ's response; if you check the glossary, you'll see there's a difference between damage taken and damage dealt.</p><p></p><p>An attack deals 9 points of damage; the defender takes 4 points of damage, because of his DR 5.</p><p></p><p>It seems to me, though it's not phrased as explicitly as one might wish, that what Shield Other splits is the damage dealt by the attack, not the damage taken by the defender.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, those terms aren't even used consistently in the core rules; the DR text refers to "attacks that deal no damage due to DR", even though DR has no effect on damage dealt, only damage taken.</p><p></p><p>An even more stringent reading of the Shield Other text might suggest that the target cannot benefit from DR, since the spell dictates damage taken directly, and thus DR is sidestepped. </p><p></p><p>Alternatively, a different emphasis might create another oddity - let's say 20 damage is dealt to our friend with DR 5; he takes half (10), and his DR further reduces this to 5. So he takes 5 damage; the damage he did not take (20 - 5 = 15) goes to the caster, who takes 15 points.</p><p></p><p>The wording is a mess, in other words, and I think you can be comfortable ruling whatever feels best for your game <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 3422260, member: 1656"] It's... murkily worded, but I think I'd be inclined to say that the literal wording supports CustServ's response; if you check the glossary, you'll see there's a difference between damage taken and damage dealt. An attack deals 9 points of damage; the defender takes 4 points of damage, because of his DR 5. It seems to me, though it's not phrased as explicitly as one might wish, that what Shield Other splits is the damage dealt by the attack, not the damage taken by the defender. On the other hand, those terms aren't even used consistently in the core rules; the DR text refers to "attacks that deal no damage due to DR", even though DR has no effect on damage dealt, only damage taken. An even more stringent reading of the Shield Other text might suggest that the target cannot benefit from DR, since the spell dictates damage taken directly, and thus DR is sidestepped. Alternatively, a different emphasis might create another oddity - let's say 20 damage is dealt to our friend with DR 5; he takes half (10), and his DR further reduces this to 5. So he takes 5 damage; the damage he did not take (20 - 5 = 15) goes to the caster, who takes 15 points. The wording is a mess, in other words, and I think you can be comfortable ruling whatever feels best for your game :) -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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