Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Rocket your D&D 5E and Level Up: Advanced 5E games into space! Alpha Star Magazine Is Launching... Right Now!

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 3272662" data-attributes="member: 29014">Mistwell, you're purposely biasing and self-selecting your response when you ask for a group that has played for a 'reasonable amount of time' and found it unbalanced because in this case, it is so atrocious that most groups are going to ban it after only a few sessions if they allow it at all in the first place (and those who don't ban it immediately are going to be groups who don't ban anything and thus will never ban it).  I played with it, and as soon as it appeared in play it was so unbalanced and so obviously unbalanced immediately that everyone in the group wanted it gone).  This is likely the case for most groups that used Wraithstrike, and thus it is only the few groups that don't find the spell unbalanced that will meet your criteria (although I don't know how much time you consider 'reasonable', so maybe I actually do meet it).My experience was a TPK of the party, except one NPC who ran away, by a Wraithstrike-using NPC gish that was supposed to be a mook encounter (he was the same level as the party and all alone).  He killed the Cleric immediately, survived whatever the Wizard did, the Rogue's non-sneak-attack, and the Barbarian's charge.  He then killed both the Wizard and the Rogue on the next round, and killed the Barbarian on either the following round or the one after. I will admit that, for instance, Nail is known for harping on Psionics for being overpowered, and I disagree with him on it, and other people have opinions on what is overpowered and what is not that differs and varies widely.  However, I don't think it is hyperbole to say that out of everything published since 3.5 in supplements by Wizards of the Coast, there are very few (if any) pieces of crunch more universally considered broken than Wraithstrike (note, I didn't say it was completely universal, just more universal than any other.  I also didn't say it was the most broken, just the most-agreed-upon as such).EDIT: I should probably mention that the horribly-broken problem Wraithstrike happened even after I preemptively made it a Standard, rather than Swift, action (it was Quickened).</blockquote>

Verification