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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 3272825" data-attributes="member: 29014">You are most certainly not going to be missing more attack bonus than the armour bonus you bypass unless you're fighting something incorporeal or a very underequipped Monk (one who doesn't even bother with Bracers of Armour/Mage Armour or Amulet of Natural Armour).  Until level 15, your basic gish (an Eldritch Knight) is missing 3 attack bonus from a full BAB class.  Afterwards, if she so chooses and eschews more spells, she can continue only missing 3 attack bonus .And don't forget that you're gaining an attack bonus from Arcane Strike as well.The Rogue Lycanthrope and Rogue/Druid are once again (like the Hold Person example) examples of significantly weaker choices:  To get the number of attacks you specify, you'll need to charge into a sneak attack (much easier said than done), and the damage is likely to be much less than the Wraithstriker regardless.  How much do you think the Wraithstriker is doing?  At level 8, unless you can stop her from hitting (and you almost certainly can't afford enough gear to do so by then), she's doing over 123 damage (123 uses a conservative estimate of a vanilla +1 Greatsword, 20 Strength, and no further buffs to damage--just Haste, which is probably less than she'll have).  By 14, it's around 276 (that's with only 22 Strength and a vanilla +3 Greatsword, no further buffs to damage--just Haste). If your Rogue-cat example somehow managed a Sneak Pounce and hit with everything (which it won't because it doesn't ignore most of their armour), well, you can't even be a Weretiger or turn into a decent cat at level 8, so we'll have to move directly to level 14 to compare the Weretiger, at which point you'll do 112 Damage assuming 30 Strength.</blockquote>

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