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Is Wraithstrike the wrong level?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mort" data-source="post: 3273298" data-attributes="member: 762"><p>Nope sometimes you just see that something is too good in play. As far as auto hit - yes it is because of arcane strike - the whole point is that it lynchpins a really powerful combo not that it's just powerful in itself (for example use blink or improved invisibility and Dex bonus is out too: that big nasty Balor without DEX touch AC of 9, Solar Touch AC 14, 9 without Dex, Titan - touch AC 8).</p><p></p><p>As for over reacting - hey I'm the one playing the fighter/mage and I just see how ridiculous it will be in a few levels. It's not quite horrible now, but with every level this one second level spell will increasingly be the best option. Heck if I wanted to really break it, I'd take the normally sub optimal extend spell and as a 3rd level spell get the benefits for 2 rounds with every casting.</p><p></p><p>I'll spell it out: wraithstrike is rotten at low levels but (for ftr/mages) gets progressively better until it's absolutely huge. The main reason is simple: Touch AC's don't scale for most opponents they are just as bad at low levels as high levels; as opposed to regular AC's which go through the roof. If something actually has a good touch AC, well there are plenty of other good options for the exception.</p><p></p><p>Other stuff:</p><p>Warlock in play - no problem</p><p>Warblade in play - much better on paper than in actual play, though quite fun, same goes for the Crusader (though they outperform the warblade).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mort, post: 3273298, member: 762"] Nope sometimes you just see that something is too good in play. As far as auto hit - yes it is because of arcane strike - the whole point is that it lynchpins a really powerful combo not that it's just powerful in itself (for example use blink or improved invisibility and Dex bonus is out too: that big nasty Balor without DEX touch AC of 9, Solar Touch AC 14, 9 without Dex, Titan - touch AC 8). As for over reacting - hey I'm the one playing the fighter/mage and I just see how ridiculous it will be in a few levels. It's not quite horrible now, but with every level this one second level spell will increasingly be the best option. Heck if I wanted to really break it, I'd take the normally sub optimal extend spell and as a 3rd level spell get the benefits for 2 rounds with every casting. I'll spell it out: wraithstrike is rotten at low levels but (for ftr/mages) gets progressively better until it's absolutely huge. The main reason is simple: Touch AC's don't scale for most opponents they are just as bad at low levels as high levels; as opposed to regular AC's which go through the roof. If something actually has a good touch AC, well there are plenty of other good options for the exception. Other stuff: Warlock in play - no problem Warblade in play - much better on paper than in actual play, though quite fun, same goes for the Crusader (though they outperform the warblade). [/QUOTE]
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