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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 3273954" data-attributes="member: 3146">A few points here:1. Arcane strike works on weapons, not spells. Using arcane strike to power an ordinary touch attack is either the result of a very unusual tactical situation or a player who wants to waste their spells.2. Vampiric touch and nearly all other touch spells pale in comparison to the amount of damage an arcane striking power attacker will dish out. A near autohit on 35 damage at 20th level? (Subject to spell resistance, etc) Not such a big deal. A near autohit on 200+ damage at 16th level? That's a big deal. (Figure of 400 arrived at by: +4 holy flaming greatsword, 18 strength, Power Attack for 13=53.5 average damage per hit x3 attacks+haste attack). Stack on Arcane Strike and fires of purity for another 35 damage per hit bringing the total to about 340 points of damage. That's a much bigger deal than vampiric touch or any touch attack spell short of 3.0 harm. (Heck, since there's no save, it's probably a bigger deal than 3.0 harm).3. If you're taking invisibility or blink as the comparison point, neither one will make anything other than a touch attack an auto-hit.A. Touch attacks are pretty much autohits anyway at high level except in unusual circumstancesB. Touch spells don't do nearly as much damage.C. The attack bonus benefit that they provide to touch attacks is generally small to moderate--on the order of 0-5 points with 1 or 2 points of bonus being normal. On the other hand, the attack bonus provided by wraithstrike is usually in the neighborhood of +18.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 3273954, member: 3146"] A few points here: 1. Arcane strike works on weapons, not spells. Using arcane strike to power an ordinary touch attack is either the result of a very unusual tactical situation or a player who wants to waste their spells. 2. Vampiric touch and nearly all other touch spells pale in comparison to the amount of damage an arcane striking power attacker will dish out. A near autohit on 35 damage at 20th level? (Subject to spell resistance, etc) Not such a big deal. A near autohit on 200+ damage at 16th level? That's a big deal. (Figure of 400 arrived at by: +4 holy flaming greatsword, 18 strength, Power Attack for 13=53.5 average damage per hit x3 attacks+haste attack). Stack on Arcane Strike and fires of purity for another 35 damage per hit bringing the total to about 340 points of damage. That's a much bigger deal than vampiric touch or any touch attack spell short of 3.0 harm. (Heck, since there's no save, it's probably a bigger deal than 3.0 harm). 3. If you're taking invisibility or blink as the comparison point, neither one will make anything other than a touch attack an auto-hit. A. Touch attacks are pretty much autohits anyway at high level except in unusual circumstances B. Touch spells don't do nearly as much damage. C. The attack bonus benefit that they provide to touch attacks is generally small to moderate--on the order of 0-5 points with 1 or 2 points of bonus being normal. On the other hand, the attack bonus provided by wraithstrike is usually in the neighborhood of +18. [/QUOTE]

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