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Is Wraithstrike the wrong level?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 3275611" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>I agree. Most of my position on this issue is that the spell, as used in common use by your average character who can have access to Wraithstrike but who also has to have a decent armor class, hit points, and base attack bonus to be able to handle melee combat, the spell isn't an issue. There are combinations here and there that make it more powerful, but you can say the same for probably 30% of the spells and abilities in this game.</p><p></p><p>If folks want to say a persistant spell of any kind is overpowered, or a touch attack from a character with improved invisibility and fly is powerful, or a combination with arcane strike and some other tactics, I agree. But that isn't a good reason to entirely dismiss this spell.</p><p></p><p>I just don't like an overreaction to a spell because it can be powergamed to be more powerful than expected. I honestly think in the normal use, in 95% of the games out there, this spell is no problem. DMs shouldn't ban the spell because they read a thread like this and think the spell is destined for a horror story. Unless a player (or NPC) is totally focused on not only being a Gish, but on being a Gish who can take full advantage of a spell like this, then I don't think DMs or players should be too worried about this spell. Give it a chance in your game, and I think most people will find it works out just fine. If you are playing with a bunch of powergamers who tend to tailor their entire character around a single concept, and you think wraithstrike is the concept, then I can see the reason for concern. But for your average caster, and even your average Gish, I think it's fine.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 3275611, member: 2525"] I agree. Most of my position on this issue is that the spell, as used in common use by your average character who can have access to Wraithstrike but who also has to have a decent armor class, hit points, and base attack bonus to be able to handle melee combat, the spell isn't an issue. There are combinations here and there that make it more powerful, but you can say the same for probably 30% of the spells and abilities in this game. If folks want to say a persistant spell of any kind is overpowered, or a touch attack from a character with improved invisibility and fly is powerful, or a combination with arcane strike and some other tactics, I agree. But that isn't a good reason to entirely dismiss this spell. I just don't like an overreaction to a spell because it can be powergamed to be more powerful than expected. I honestly think in the normal use, in 95% of the games out there, this spell is no problem. DMs shouldn't ban the spell because they read a thread like this and think the spell is destined for a horror story. Unless a player (or NPC) is totally focused on not only being a Gish, but on being a Gish who can take full advantage of a spell like this, then I don't think DMs or players should be too worried about this spell. Give it a chance in your game, and I think most people will find it works out just fine. If you are playing with a bunch of powergamers who tend to tailor their entire character around a single concept, and you think wraithstrike is the concept, then I can see the reason for concern. But for your average caster, and even your average Gish, I think it's fine. [/QUOTE]
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