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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 3296154" data-attributes="member: 5889">There's a couple of things to consider with mirror image. Its a great spell, no one is questioning that, but it does have some limitations:1) Every time the fighter swings and doesn't hit the mage he takes out an image. Now, as said, the mage can just recast the spell. But, that deprives him of casting another spell. Or if he quickens it, well then its really a 6th level spell he is casting. Wraithstrike is a swift spell, the fighter doesn't suffer an action cost from using it.2) Mirror image is only 1 min/level. That means you have to have some foreknowledge to use it, or again spend a precious action in combat to cast it. Wraithstrike is used when needed, its never wasted.As for counters to wraithstrike, if the counter is taking a melee monster out of melee range, then the party has already won. I've just effectively lowered the CR of the encounter, and I didn't even have to cast the spell!I think wraithstrike is a monster monster buff spell, however, as has been mentioned there are situations when its not very useful.So here's the main two questions for wraithstrike builds:1) How effective is the build in melee when wraithstrike cannot be used? Aka, in sitations where the spell wouldn't be effective, or you've simply run out of them.2) How many times can wraithstrike be used per day in these builds? Can you use the spell often in a fair number of combats, or do you have to be stingy and hoard them?Finally, let's stop looking at this spell from a player's use perspective, and put it in the hands of an npc. Let's used that 12th level build from the other thread. The party's 12th level fighter goes into melee, because that's what he does. The npc counters, and with a pitiful touch AC on the fighter, the npc is virtually guarranteed to hit everytime. He does a good 200 damage to the fighter and kills him outright. No save, no SR, a perfectly normal CR for a 12th level fighter, and he's dead. Doesn't seem right to me.</blockquote>

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