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<blockquote data-quote="DJCupboard" data-source="post: 3578593" data-attributes="member: 21995">I'm not going to get all snooty and say I don't usually play the way you describe it (kill, kill, kill; it's the only way), because I usually do play in a group of efficient killers out to save the day and/or score the loot, and to a degree the core books promote this mindset, but that does not mean it is the only way to play.&nbsp; As has already been stated, you get the xp just for defeating the monster, which can be accomplished without murder.&nbsp; In fact, you get the xp for overcoming obstacles, which means a properly prepared DM doesn't need to throw monsters at you at all.&nbsp; Getting past the deserted and boobytrapped ancient ruin, outwhitting the evil politiican who is trying to take over the city for his own nefarious purposes, etc; these are all ways to gain xp under the RAW.&nbsp; I once played a monk with the most of the vow feats from the B.E.D. (and I know others have as well), who gained most of his XP from converting evil NPCs to the &quot;Right Path&quot; using subdual damage when he absolutely had to.&nbsp; I've known people to play RPGs in order to teach important social and moral lessons to teens and other school age children.But yeah, most of the time it's kill the hideous thing in front of us and scour its lair for useful trinkets.~Dave~</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DJCupboard, post: 3578593, member: 21995"] I'm not going to get all snooty and say I don't usually play the way you describe it (kill, kill, kill; it's the only way), because I usually do play in a group of efficient killers out to save the day and/or score the loot, and to a degree the core books promote this mindset, but that does not mean it is the only way to play. As has already been stated, you get the xp just for defeating the monster, which can be accomplished without murder. In fact, you get the xp for overcoming obstacles, which means a properly prepared DM doesn't need to throw monsters at you at all. Getting past the deserted and boobytrapped ancient ruin, outwhitting the evil politiican who is trying to take over the city for his own nefarious purposes, etc; these are all ways to gain xp under the RAW. I once played a monk with the most of the vow feats from the B.E.D. (and I know others have as well), who gained most of his XP from converting evil NPCs to the "Right Path" using subdual damage when he absolutely had to. I've known people to play RPGs in order to teach important social and moral lessons to teens and other school age children. But yeah, most of the time it's kill the hideous thing in front of us and scour its lair for useful trinkets. ~Dave~ [/QUOTE]

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