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<blockquote data-quote="Joshua Randall" data-source="post: 9531328" data-attributes="member: 7737"><p>Whenever I would design 3e creatures (which I haven't done in years), I would look for a published monster with roughly the same shtick that I wanted my monster to do. And steal it.</p><p></p><p>So, if you want a monster that dominates others and controls them, I'd look for monsters that do that. What springs to mind is the 3e <a href="https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Vampire" target="_blank">Vampire</a> template.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You can flavor that however you want. Remove the "similar to a gaze attack" piece. Put different limitations on it, like the Gloomfetch has to be physically attached to the target. </p><p></p><p><em>Dominate person</em> (the referenced spell) lasts 1 day per level, so that is plenty long for the Gloomfetch to start the process. Plus on day N-1 you can give a command like "don't resist my next dominate person" and then re-apply it.</p><p></p><p>For the un-attached Gloomfetch being camouflaged like an octopus, let's see what 3e's <a href="https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Giant_Octopus" target="_blank">Giant Octopus</a> has to say.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So the color-changing camouflage is being modeled by a +4 racial bonus to Hide checks. (And the Giant Octopus already has Hide+12, so +16 when it changes colors.) You also get some rules for how it can squeeze through places due to being a freaky slime blob with no internal organs.</p><p></p><p>There is no monster in 3e that does "attach to your head and drive you around like a puppet while you see through its eyes". But when I think of monsters that attach themselves to you, I think of the <a href="https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Stirge" target="_blank">Stirge</a>. So let's see how 3e models the bat-mosquito's tenaciousness.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Here we find the most evil of all possible monsters: the one that makes you look up the Grapple rules. Truly horrific. But jokes aside, the Stirge gets a giant +12 bonus to Grapple checks, so good luck getting that thing off unless you yourself are an expert Grappler and/or really, <em>really</em> strong.</p><p></p><p>Anyway that is how I would build a 3e monster, mechanically. Steal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Joshua Randall, post: 9531328, member: 7737"] Whenever I would design 3e creatures (which I haven't done in years), I would look for a published monster with roughly the same shtick that I wanted my monster to do. And steal it. So, if you want a monster that dominates others and controls them, I'd look for monsters that do that. What springs to mind is the 3e [URL='https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Vampire']Vampire[/URL] template. You can flavor that however you want. Remove the "similar to a gaze attack" piece. Put different limitations on it, like the Gloomfetch has to be physically attached to the target. [I]Dominate person[/I] (the referenced spell) lasts 1 day per level, so that is plenty long for the Gloomfetch to start the process. Plus on day N-1 you can give a command like "don't resist my next dominate person" and then re-apply it. For the un-attached Gloomfetch being camouflaged like an octopus, let's see what 3e's [URL='https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Giant_Octopus']Giant Octopus[/URL] has to say. So the color-changing camouflage is being modeled by a +4 racial bonus to Hide checks. (And the Giant Octopus already has Hide+12, so +16 when it changes colors.) You also get some rules for how it can squeeze through places due to being a freaky slime blob with no internal organs. There is no monster in 3e that does "attach to your head and drive you around like a puppet while you see through its eyes". But when I think of monsters that attach themselves to you, I think of the [URL='https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Stirge']Stirge[/URL]. So let's see how 3e models the bat-mosquito's tenaciousness. Here we find the most evil of all possible monsters: the one that makes you look up the Grapple rules. Truly horrific. But jokes aside, the Stirge gets a giant +12 bonus to Grapple checks, so good luck getting that thing off unless you yourself are an expert Grappler and/or really, [I]really[/I] strong. Anyway that is how I would build a 3e monster, mechanically. Steal. [/QUOTE]
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