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<blockquote data-quote="Candour Pendragon" data-source="post: 8425512" data-attributes="member: 7030450"><p>As it is written right now, you cannot replace a maneuver you know with one of a higher degree when you learn a new one. It must be the same degree. </p><p>This means that any class that doesn't learn a new maneuver the level they gain access to a higher degree has to wait additional levels until they do learn a new maneuver to be able to actually use the higher degree.</p><p></p><p>For example, the preview of the Adept class has them learn their fourth maneuver at 7th level, when their highest degree is 2nd. When they then gain access to 3rd degree maneuvers at 8th level... they cannot actually <em>have </em>any 3rd degree maneuvers, cause you can't replace a maneuver with one of a higher degree, and it takes until <strong>11th level</strong> for them to actually be able to gain and use a 3rd degree maneuver.</p><p></p><p><strong>This is a huge delay and cannot possibly be intentional... right?</strong> Like, why give the player the theoretical ability to use 3rd degree maneuvers, without actually being able to have any until three levels later? Feels like a taunt.</p><p></p><p>My suggestion for fixing this is to allow replacement of maneuvers to upgrade their degree, but set a limit for how many maneuvers of which degree a character can know at any one time, to avoid people stacking too many high-degree maneuvers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Candour Pendragon, post: 8425512, member: 7030450"] As it is written right now, you cannot replace a maneuver you know with one of a higher degree when you learn a new one. It must be the same degree. This means that any class that doesn't learn a new maneuver the level they gain access to a higher degree has to wait additional levels until they do learn a new maneuver to be able to actually use the higher degree. For example, the preview of the Adept class has them learn their fourth maneuver at 7th level, when their highest degree is 2nd. When they then gain access to 3rd degree maneuvers at 8th level... they cannot actually [I]have [/I]any 3rd degree maneuvers, cause you can't replace a maneuver with one of a higher degree, and it takes until [B]11th level[/B] for them to actually be able to gain and use a 3rd degree maneuver. [B]This is a huge delay and cannot possibly be intentional... right?[/B] Like, why give the player the theoretical ability to use 3rd degree maneuvers, without actually being able to have any until three levels later? Feels like a taunt. My suggestion for fixing this is to allow replacement of maneuvers to upgrade their degree, but set a limit for how many maneuvers of which degree a character can know at any one time, to avoid people stacking too many high-degree maneuvers. [/QUOTE]
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