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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8426727" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>I was not referring to gap as in "a lack of power", but a gap in understanding.... why do I get access to an ability but no way to actually use said ability?</p><p></p><p>So in this context, there is a gap. A player who read the class head to toe would ask the question "so I can have 3rd level maneuvers, but how do I get 3rd level maneuvers?"</p><p></p><p>Originally our assumption was that this was something just lost in the preview, we were missing something general about maneuvers that would readily explain this. The designer then clarified, nothing in the general description of maneuvers would explain this, the user would only realize this when they consider specific feats or multiclass combinations. </p><p></p><p>If this was a common thing in 5e, I could respect that.... even though I recognize LU is meant to be standalone I would assume most people trying it out would have some tribal understanding of 5e. But that's not normal for 5e, and so the most reasonable assumption to make would be "this is a mistake".</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now this can be corrected pretty easily. In some general section of maneuvers, a single sentence could say "some classes get access to a maneuver level but may not get maneuvers known of that level. They can gain access to them through feats, multiclassing, or some other abilities". </p><p></p><p>Or something to that effect. Now at least there is documentation in the system that reassures a reader "nope not a mistake, we were very intentional with this decision"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 8426727, member: 5889"] I was not referring to gap as in "a lack of power", but a gap in understanding.... why do I get access to an ability but no way to actually use said ability? So in this context, there is a gap. A player who read the class head to toe would ask the question "so I can have 3rd level maneuvers, but how do I get 3rd level maneuvers?" Originally our assumption was that this was something just lost in the preview, we were missing something general about maneuvers that would readily explain this. The designer then clarified, nothing in the general description of maneuvers would explain this, the user would only realize this when they consider specific feats or multiclass combinations. If this was a common thing in 5e, I could respect that.... even though I recognize LU is meant to be standalone I would assume most people trying it out would have some tribal understanding of 5e. But that's not normal for 5e, and so the most reasonable assumption to make would be "this is a mistake". Now this can be corrected pretty easily. In some general section of maneuvers, a single sentence could say "some classes get access to a maneuver level but may not get maneuvers known of that level. They can gain access to them through feats, multiclassing, or some other abilities". Or something to that effect. Now at least there is documentation in the system that reassures a reader "nope not a mistake, we were very intentional with this decision" [/QUOTE]
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