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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fuzzlewump" data-source="post: 5083205" data-attributes="member: 63214">A lie is still a lie no matter what the skill is called. Allowing you use bluff/persuasion to be convincing when you tell the truth doesn't change the ethical implications of using bluff/persuasion to lie.In other words, it doesn't follow that there needs to be a distinction between skills because there should be a distinction between lying and truthing.Also, see SteveC's example of the guy who explained himself well but was still not trustworthy. Good example of Persuasion vs. Diplomacy. The cop is convinced that the kid thinks he's telling the truth, but he came off with an attitude, so was unlikable. If you can't use bluff to tell the truth, then you would use diplomacy... and given that real life scenario, how could he tell the truth well and still not be likable with diplomacy? Another skill would have to come into play. Namely, 'persuasion.' Or, to be clear, Bluff with the ability to also tell 'truths' as well as lies.</blockquote>