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Message: <blockquote data-quote="lin_fusan" data-source="post: 5083604" data-attributes="member: 37085">Well, the fighter did fail that social skill. NPCs stopped listening to him. But what I found interesting was that the player found this outcome frustrating. His questions were really interesting: "I had a perfectly reasonable plan. Why wouldn't they listen to me?" " "Why wouldn't I put in a low CHA, because I'm the fighter." and "What was the point in putting us in a situation where we would fail?"It made me wonder, in a mechanics-heavy system like 3.0/3.5, what players thought of CHA-based skills and stats. STR, DEX, CON all have combat specific applications. INT gives you extra skill points. WIS at least helps your Will Save, but what does CHA do?I feel that players undervalue it because it doesn't have a lot of mechanical applications (except for Bards, Sorcerers, and maybe Paladins/Clerics). Most players feel like that all they need to be is real life charismatic, or real life reasonable, and that should take care of the problem of a low CHA. [That part of the Savage Tide Adventure Path assumes that the players will have their characters take leadership positions. Those with high CHA can motivate and command NPCs. Those with low CHA can simply take on the physical challenges. The result? The druid who had a moderate CHA let other people do the talking. The wizard/thief that should have had the proper skills changed characters because he felt wizards were underpowered. And the fighter player, who had never shown an interest in NPC interactions, suddenly wanted to be a commander/leader in this town.]</blockquote>

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