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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Coredump" data-source="post: 1469884" data-attributes="member: 6939">Geez... is there any cheese and crackers.. or only whine?Now, lets see about this encounter. I am not sure how it happened the way you described.Assuming you rush in for battle, you get there one or two round ahead of the Dire Wolf. So you get one or two attacks first.First round the Wolf attacks, the Giant gets an AoO (Giants BAB is greater than AC, instahit.) Assuming a few points of Power attack, over half the hitpoints are gone.The wolf attacks *once* and has a 50/50 chance of hittingThe giant attacks the wolf, and if power attack, kills the wolf, and tries to hit you with the second attack. Even without PA, he kills the wolf with the second attack of the round.(you say the wolf can trip 'consistently' First, it should be dead after one round. Second, it has only a 60% hit chance, and then a 50% trip chance. If consistent is 30%.....  And the giant is almost as dangerous prone. (still hit the wolf on a 2)Next round the lion show up, same thing (only worse). AoO does almost 60-75% of HP. Next attack will kill it. (even without PA, two attacks will be two hits, will be one dead lion)How is the lion getting 5 attacks? Every round?  How is the lion hitting with the bite at only a +2? (that is a lot of 18's) And how in the world is getting the bite, *and* winning the grapple, *and* hitting with the rake??And the second giant?  Why did he close at all?  If the animals were that effective, throw rocks. Kill the dumb animals. Heck, if it had been 15 seconds later, both animals would have been gone.And even if the animals survived the first giant, the second one gets the AoO's also. And that would kill both animals.Gee *you* would survive, because a monk can *tumble*. What a cool advantage you have. And while it is easy to hit you also... it is much harder than the insta hits against the animals. (Even prone, the giant hits on a 2 or 3)Plus, the druid used both 3rd level spells, and 2 of the 3 second level spells. Pretty much shot the wad. What happens if another *anything* shows up?What happens if the second giant stopped to tie his shoe, and is 30 seconds later? What happens when the attack entails sneaking somewhere? The druid trick is a one trick pony. It is short lived, with low AC. Same as a beginning mage with only one magic missle. When it is gone... it is gone. Monks are monks all day long. Just as useful in evening as in morning. Even if you fought the giants in the morning. The druid is just short of a spectator after that fight. (actually, I am not sure how you all were not dead... but that is another issue.).</blockquote>

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