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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ForceUser" data-source="post: 1472748" data-attributes="member: 2785">Semantics. Whatever the origination, it is what it is. I agree, it's definitely not the chop-suey monk from movies. But I think that's a reflection of how 3.x works in general - the light fighter gig is often a harder road to travel because of simple game mechanics.   AE spells is certainly one way to deal with that. In such a case, the monk is then free to flank off the fighter and help whup the horned devil. He shouldn't try to tank him, though. I will agree, however, that for many people, being part of the team is less important than having your moment in the sun. I think that's a style play thing more than anything, though. IME, the guy who enjoys playing clerics will enjoy playing monks moreso than the guy who enjoys playing fighters.   I have no problem with the monk being a 2nd-ranker in the 3.x experience. It makes sense, given the AC + hp  paradigm in the game. The monk trades AC & hp for mobility and neat magical powers and a few cool combat moves (stunning fist, quivering palm, etc.). The monk is certainly not a class for everyone, and it's true that perhaps calling the class "monk" gives players the wrong impression. It's a good class for what it is, though. I think there are other game systems in which one can find greater enjoyment from the "chop-suey" monk experience, such as Feng Shui (sp?).</blockquote>