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Issues with Summon Monster/Summon Nature's Ally (2004 Thread)
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<blockquote data-quote="Herpes Cineplex" data-source="post: 1473709" data-attributes="member: 16936"><p>This thread started with a player who had a genuine problem with his character in the campaign that he was playing in. The vast majority of the discussion has been focused on that problem and problems similar to it.</p><p></p><p>Yeah, sure, everybody is special in their very own special way. But campaigns and gaming groups work differently for different people, and brushing off a guy's valid complaint with a thinly-veiled "I guess you're just not clever enough to find a way to be useful, you hack-and-slash loser, you" isn't cool.</p><p></p><p>As much as you may like to think otherwise, sometimes it really <em>is</em> a problem with the character and not with the player. When the player knows what he wants out of the game and it has been proven beyond doubt that the character he's got isn't able to provide it for him in this particular campaign, you have to admit that it makes sense to change the goddamn character, don't you?</p><p></p><p>--</p><p>well, i suppose you don't have to admit it...if you don't mind being <em>wrong</em> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>\/\/\/\/\/ Uh...yeah, relevant <em>like a fox.</em> <img src="http://scarymonsters.net/~ryan/emot/rolleyes.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Herpes Cineplex, post: 1473709, member: 16936"] This thread started with a player who had a genuine problem with his character in the campaign that he was playing in. The vast majority of the discussion has been focused on that problem and problems similar to it. Yeah, sure, everybody is special in their very own special way. But campaigns and gaming groups work differently for different people, and brushing off a guy's valid complaint with a thinly-veiled "I guess you're just not clever enough to find a way to be useful, you hack-and-slash loser, you" isn't cool. As much as you may like to think otherwise, sometimes it really [i]is[/i] a problem with the character and not with the player. When the player knows what he wants out of the game and it has been proven beyond doubt that the character he's got isn't able to provide it for him in this particular campaign, you have to admit that it makes sense to change the goddamn character, don't you? -- well, i suppose you don't have to admit it...if you don't mind being [i]wrong[/i] ;) \/\/\/\/\/ Uh...yeah, relevant [i]like a fox.[/i] [img]http://scarymonsters.net/~ryan/emot/rolleyes.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]
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