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<blockquote data-quote="hong" data-source="post: 1474020" data-attributes="member: 537">&quot;Stand out&quot; is a funny thing. It's really about what you, as a player, want out of the game, and the enjoyment you derive from the things your character does.&nbsp;Being able to stand out has no necessary link with being a kick-butt combatant, true. If what you want your monk to be is as a character whose main niche is outside combat, then you're likely to be happy to play a support guy in combat. You're there to give flanking and other benefits for the real tanks, run interference for the wiz, take out annoying spellcasters, etc. This is fine.&nbsp;However, the fact remains that this often isn't want a monk player wants. As has been repeated ad nauseam, the monk's roots are found in characters who kick butt, and so a player is likely to want to do the same. The class, however, doesn't support that style of play. If you try standing toe-to-toe with monsters, you'll typically do pissy damage and/or get whomped. You'll notice that everyone who's said their monks stand out in combat has also said it happens by the monk NOT kicking butt, but by contributing in other ways that help OTHER people kick butt. And really, that's fine. But that's not the same as saying the monk is a class that works. Just because a workaround exists doesn't mean the class has no problems.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="hong, post: 1474020, member: 537"] "Stand out" is a funny thing. It's really about what you, as a player, want out of the game, and the enjoyment you derive from the things your character does. Being able to stand out has no necessary link with being a kick-butt combatant, true. If what you want your monk to be is as a character whose main niche is outside combat, then you're likely to be happy to play a support guy in combat. You're there to give flanking and other benefits for the real tanks, run interference for the wiz, take out annoying spellcasters, etc. This is fine. However, the fact remains that this often isn't want a monk player wants. As has been repeated ad nauseam, the monk's roots are found in characters who kick butt, and so a player is likely to want to do the same. The class, however, doesn't support that style of play. If you try standing toe-to-toe with monsters, you'll typically do pissy damage and/or get whomped. You'll notice that everyone who's said their monks stand out in combat has also said it happens by the monk NOT kicking butt, but by contributing in other ways that help OTHER people kick butt. And really, that's fine. But that's not the same as saying the monk is a class that works. Just because a workaround exists doesn't mean the class has no problems. [/QUOTE]

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