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Issues with Summon Monster/Summon Nature's Ally (2004 Thread)
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<blockquote data-quote="CPXB" data-source="post: 1475784" data-attributes="member: 17233"><p>To me, all these level 20 examples and illustrations are weird. I mean, I never have seen a game at these levels -- not just been in, never seen. Most games, in my experience, wind up way before level 20. To me, all these sorts of illustrations are very, very hypothetical.</p><p></p><p>Which is also another reason why I've been leery of accepting arguments about how monks become balanced at some hypothetical higher level. In my game, the characters go up in level about once a month (which is pretty typical). Saying that my 6th level monk is gonna be balance at level 13 is saying, y'know, "Oh, wait SEVEN MONTHS and your monk will be OK." The level 20 examples I feel are wholly apocryphal -- a place I'll never be. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>So why the examples are interesting, I've been wondering why people focus on the really high level stuff instead of the stuff that is more commonly played -- the 1st through 10th level stuff.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CPXB, post: 1475784, member: 17233"] To me, all these level 20 examples and illustrations are weird. I mean, I never have seen a game at these levels -- not just been in, never seen. Most games, in my experience, wind up way before level 20. To me, all these sorts of illustrations are very, very hypothetical. Which is also another reason why I've been leery of accepting arguments about how monks become balanced at some hypothetical higher level. In my game, the characters go up in level about once a month (which is pretty typical). Saying that my 6th level monk is gonna be balance at level 13 is saying, y'know, "Oh, wait SEVEN MONTHS and your monk will be OK." The level 20 examples I feel are wholly apocryphal -- a place I'll never be. :) So why the examples are interesting, I've been wondering why people focus on the really high level stuff instead of the stuff that is more commonly played -- the 1st through 10th level stuff. [/QUOTE]
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