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Issues with Summon Monster/Summon Nature's Ally (2004 Thread)
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<blockquote data-quote="Will" data-source="post: 1475983" data-attributes="member: 5566"><p>Ok, looking at examples, the advantage monks have in number of items really only kicks in around level 8, when you can afford the minimum list of items.</p><p></p><p>Test examples: 8th level monk and 8th level barbarian, let's assume half of standard treasure is used to improve AC, and let's go with a monk with 16 Dex and 14 Wis (which I think is a little more doable) and a barbarian with Dex 12.</p><p></p><p>Standard wealth is 27k, let's use 17k.</p><p></p><p>Monk:</p><p>Has put 2 ability score points into Dex, now at Dex 18. Without items, AC is 16.</p><p>Items: </p><p>Bracers of armor +2 (4,000)</p><p>Gloves of Dexterity +2 (4,000)</p><p>Periapt of Wisdom +2 (4,000)</p><p>Amulet of natural armor +1 (3,000 : +50% with periapt)</p><p>Ring of protection +1 (2,000)</p><p></p><p>This comes out to an AC of 22.</p><p></p><p>Barbarian:</p><p>At higher levels, mithril full plate might be a good idea, but probably not worth it yet.</p><p>+3 Breastplate (Armor +7) (9,350)</p><p>Gloves of Dexterity +2 (4,000)</p><p>Amulet of natural armor +1 (2,000)</p><p>Ring of protection +1 (2,000)</p><p></p><p>A little over, by 350. No biggie. Total AC is 20.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Will, post: 1475983, member: 5566"] Ok, looking at examples, the advantage monks have in number of items really only kicks in around level 8, when you can afford the minimum list of items. Test examples: 8th level monk and 8th level barbarian, let's assume half of standard treasure is used to improve AC, and let's go with a monk with 16 Dex and 14 Wis (which I think is a little more doable) and a barbarian with Dex 12. Standard wealth is 27k, let's use 17k. Monk: Has put 2 ability score points into Dex, now at Dex 18. Without items, AC is 16. Items: Bracers of armor +2 (4,000) Gloves of Dexterity +2 (4,000) Periapt of Wisdom +2 (4,000) Amulet of natural armor +1 (3,000 : +50% with periapt) Ring of protection +1 (2,000) This comes out to an AC of 22. Barbarian: At higher levels, mithril full plate might be a good idea, but probably not worth it yet. +3 Breastplate (Armor +7) (9,350) Gloves of Dexterity +2 (4,000) Amulet of natural armor +1 (2,000) Ring of protection +1 (2,000) A little over, by 350. No biggie. Total AC is 20. [/QUOTE]
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